San Francisco Crime Levels

As someone who has young adult living in the city it’s really scary. This happened in Rincon Hill neighborhood with expensive apartment buildings with 24/7 concierge service . 2:30 am is the time young people return from bars so it’s not that outrageous. Really scary

Ditto :flushed:

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Same. Just a block from Google bldg.

So sad. This made the national news because the victim was a well-known entrepreneur. Many attacks and killings in other cities don’t make the national headlines… sadly, such attacks can happen anywhere.

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I always have to keep that in mind!

They could happen anywhere, but generally don’t. Most homicide victims know their attackers. Many homicide cases involve excessive alcohol use, particularly among young men. The odds of being randomly attacked on the street in an upscale part of town are quite small but are part of what is driving the media attention.
SF residents are increasingly concerned about the increase in random crime

SF has an unprecedented police staffing shortage according to their mayor. She’s asking for federal assistance.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/breed-ask-feds-help-drug-dealing-sfpd-fentanyl-17864801.php

“As you know,weare dealing with multiple serious public safety challenges locally, from a fentanyl-driven overdose epidemic, open-air drug dealing, property crime in our residential and commercial neighborhoods, increasing gun violence, and prejudice-fueled incidents. While San Francisco is doing everything it can to ‘address these public safety challenges, we are in the midst of an unprecedented police staffing shortage, and we need help from the Federal government.

In particular, I am most concerned about the sheer volumeofdrug dealing on our streets. These drug dealers have become increasingly aggressive with both our public safety personal and with membersof the community. Violence and shootings surround these brazen open-air drug dealing scenes. Sadly, this means that the people who live and work in these areas, including employeesofthe various federal buildings in and around the Tenderloin, are forced to endure unsafe and unhealthy conditions. Our local law enforcement is doing its best to enforce against drug dealing, however the scaleof the problem is beyond our local capacity. We need additional and ongoing support from the DepartmentofJustice to arrest and prosecute drug dealers so residents, families, and workers feel safe in their neighborhood.”

Hmm. I wonder why they are short on police staffing.

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Indeed.

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It’s pretty bad. I’ve been scoffed at before on these forums for my take on how unsafe SF has become. Glad I don’t live there anymore. What happened to that guy was really awful.

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I don’t mean to sound insensitive, because it’s awful that he was stabbed to death. But I have not seen any information that indicates that his was a random crime. Is there a news source that confirms that it was random?

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https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/bob-lee-san-francisco-arrest-17895071.php

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Obviously not random. Those in the media who jumped to assume it definitely was look ridiculous now. There was no information one way or the other.

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It wasn’t just those in the media :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

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Nothing ridiculous. In this case it wasn’t but in case of former fire commissioner attracted in Marina and many other cases it is

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I’ll be having dinner in the City tomorrow. No fear here.

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I’m no profiler but my guess/gut feeling from the beginning was that this was not random and that people were jumping to conclusions. I’m not surprised that the alleged killer was someone he knew.

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Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee — tech exec's alleged killer also worked in tech - Mission Local is a local news story about the arrest of the suspect (linked from the Forbes page).

It also notes that “San Francisco is home to much in the way of visible public misery, unnerving street behavior and overt drug use. Its property crime rate has long been high, and the police clearance rate for property crimes has long been minimal. But the city’s violent crime rate is at a near-historic low, and is lower than most mid-to-large-sized cities.”

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The reason why many people immediately associated Bob Lee’s murder with random crimes was because there’s the perception of increasing lawlessness in the city. There’re now more parts of San Francisco both visitors and many residents of the city increasingly prefer not to go. With respect to crimes, perceptions, rather than much less individually meaningful aggregate statistics, are the reality. Many people are unconvinced, correctly IMO, by selective statistics when the city’s largest Whole Foods store closed a few days ago due to safety concerns.

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Almost every year since the early 1990s, people nationally in Gallup surveys say that crime is increasing, even though crime has greatly fallen nationally since then.

People are probably more fearful of crime now than during the crime wave.

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