<p>I personally don’t think SAT and ACT are looked at the same. SAT definitely seems to be preferred by adcoms</p>
<p>“Officially” both tests are considered equally.</p>
<p>Unofficially none of us actually know their true policies.</p>
<p>In the end it is moot point because we are all biased towards one test and nobody knows the true preference, if their is one, of colleges.</p>
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<p>"Again, both Juillet and Ray should just stop lying, because it’s not working. "</p>
<p>My my, you seemed to forget the definition of “both”. </p>
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<p>No, it’s exactly a conspiracy theory. You’re making connections, but you have no proof of anything, merely implications and assumptions galore, the very definition of a conspiracy theory.</p>
<p>I repeat: proof?</p>
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<p>They do create point-by-point comparisons, actually. Which is how they make cutoff points.</p>
<p>But that’s not the point. The point is that organizations do treat different tests equally. Difference in content does not indicate difference in result. </p>
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<p>I’m sure you also believe that aliens landed in Area-51, but that doesn’t mean it’s the truth. (And if you’re claiming my 2330 score is poor, you’re a sad, sad person)</p>
<p>So my argument that you need to support your claims with facts/proof is… silly? O RLY?</p>
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<p>O RLY</p>
<p>Loud noises</p>
<p>Heres my opinion.</p>
<p>I have done a lot better on my ACT’s than my SAT’s because I found the ACT easier. I live on the east cost.</p>
<p>While the two tests are officially equal, I find that schools on the east coast have a preference for the SAT instead of the ACT. How many takers submit SAT’s instead of ACT’s for schools on the East Coast? </p>
<p>While I love the ACT much more than the SAT, since I will never retake the SAT’s again, I still feel that the SAT’s are valued more. </p>
<p>Anyone noticed that more people tend to just pop a much higher score without studying on the ACT, rather than the SAT? Prove me wrong. I’m using common sense, not hard statistics.</p>
<p>**WHY **is NO ONE attacking Ray for his truly HORRIFYING and OUTRAGEOUS claim re:</p>
<p>disproving existence of Flying Spaghetti Monster !! ??? </p>
<p>Several posts have gone by and yet none of you blasted him on that! ???</p>
<p>Ray … I just say … watch OUT!</p>
<p>SAT is a lot harder than ACT. Although I have not taken an official ACT, I practiced the some questions online and found is ridiculously easier than SAT’s. Moreover, if colleges look ACT and SAT equally, it would be injustice to the students who take SAT’s. Most kids who are taking ACT at my school are taking it because they did bad on the SAT’s (less than 2000). One kid who got 1900 on SAT, earned 35 on ACT. </p>
<p>Opinion: If it is looked equally, I think it is injustice to the SAT test takers.</p>
<p>I’m not making a judgement either way, but I will say that 34+ ACT scores are a dime a dozen at my school whereas very few people get 2300+ on the SAT. (I’m not biased btw—I got a 34 on the ACT and a 2340 on the SAT).</p>
<p>well i prefer the SAT =]</p>
<p>Statistically, the two tests are not enough different to warrant this endless wrangling. Top colleges have their choice of top students; students who spend their time obsessing over such are actually lessening their admission chances. Go get a hobby, work on an ec. </p>
<p>Consider instead that colleges are really helped by knowing who you are in as much depth as possible - so send them both ACT and SAT, send them everything.</p>
<p>I think the ACT is objectively easier in terms of question wording and the level of abstract thinking required. But at the same time, I have no sympathy for the kids who complain about it, because no one is stopping them from registering for the ACT.</p>
<p>■■■■■, cooljazz. Get your f-cking facts straight. I took the ACT once and scored a 32. The second time, I scored a 34. I took the SATI, and scored a 2350 - on my first try. I wasn’t arguing for/against either, I was merely commenting on how Ray and Juillet were kicking your ass. </p>
<p>Also. . .</p>
<p>“The fact is you’ve a student who favors the ACT”</p>
<p>You should learn which contraction to use before attempting to make a coherent argument.</p>
<p>The best thing about this topic is how useless it is, because no one except the Jane Smith who reads your application gets to decide whether or not they’re equally favored.</p>
<p>Arguing any position assumes that a college has an official position, assumes that colleges actually follow their official position, and assumes that the individual human beings that call the shots don’t have any sort of bias that’s totally independent of the college’s positions as a whole.</p>
<p>Everyone who answers this topic with a specific answer is wrong, unless they’re an admissions officer truthfully talking about how they make their own decisions.</p>
<p>apple- lol I got a 34 on my act and a 2340 on the SAT…wow we must think alike = D… Btw…I agree that 34+s on the ACT are moderately common at my school whereas a 2300+ is absolutely unheard of. However, we are in Nebraska, where most average students only take the ACT</p>
<p>SAT rulz btw…colleges know it even if it is unofficially</p>
<p>For those of you who think that the SAT is a “harder” test than the ACT and is therefore preferred by adcoms (a notion, by the way, that has no basis in fact), please explain to me what any school – whether it’s Yale or _______ State University – would have to gain by secretly harboring a preference for the SAT, but publicly stating that it has no preference for either test and that it weighs them equally in the admissions process? Why not just say on the admissions website: We prefer the SAT. Do you honestly think that any adcom would really care if they offended the nice people at the ACT by stating that the SAT is preferred? This defies common sense.</p>
<p>^One other point: comparing the conversion tables between SAT and ACT scores is meaningless. What matters to adcoms is how a particular student did on either test compared to all of the other students who took that same test. In other words, adcoms don’t see that many 35s/36s on the ACT any more than they see many 2300+ SAT scores. In either cases, kids with those scores have distinguished themselves relative to their peers who took the same test.</p>
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<p>They do? That’s news to me. I guess that non-profit/tax exempt status thing is just a sham, huh? Wow, wait until the IRS discovers this – a conspiracy between all of the colleges and universities in the U.S., the College Board, and the ACT to make money. If we can get their collective non-profit/tax exempt status revoked, that should produce enough tax revenue to pay for national health care, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc. Federal deficit solved!</p>
<p>You have got to admit. College Board does not act like a run-of-the-mill nonprofit company.</p>
<p>^Neither do colleges and universities that charge $200,000 for an undergraduate degree. They are, nonetheless, non-profit/tax exempt entities according to the Internal Revenue Code.</p>
<p>This is such an interesting thread to read, with all the flaming and nonsense.</p>