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<p>Yes, and I took it one step further by noting that none of them were of people asking if they should retake 2390. “not all” and “none” mean different things last time I checked, no matter how clearly one says them.</p>
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<p>It’s not a matter of ineffective word choice; your statement was incorrect. And you’re going to have to support this claim:</p>
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<p>ccuser18;</p>
<p>I will respectfully disagree with that statement. :)</p>
<p>I agree with Mitch. Take both. Personally, I think the ACT is more “cleaner” in the sense that you don’t have to take subject tests (more time and more prep needed). The ACTs are just as highly regarded as the SATs. Some people do well on one over the other. We can’t tell you which one you would excel on.</p>
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<p>Some schools require Subject Tests even when the ACT is submitted.</p>
<p>miss_murd3r,</p>
<p>my claim only applies to male CC users. had to clarify that.</p>
<p>Continuing:</p>
<p>It is perfectly reasonable, and certainly not indicative of arrogance, for me to correct you when you use a false claim as the sole line of support for your point. Please be mature enough to respond with proof for the claim or even to evade me, but don’t resort to unfounded personal attacks, especially in such transparent form that no rational reader would be persuaded by them. It’s unimpressive and prosaically predictable.</p>
<p>If you still believe that I have a pattern of being arrogant, please quote some instances of it. However, I try to be helpful and to actively avoid the proliferation of misconceptions, such as the one that you stated. Usually, people admit their errors; in some cases (as we see here), the posters are not mature enough to do that and instead take a more defensive (and in turn offensive) approach.</p>
<p>MitchAPalooza, </p>
<p>In this case, silverturtle did quote you and call you out on a minor thing. And yes, people are blowing this argument out of proportion–it was a simple exaggeration. But to say that all silverturtle does is quote and call people out, that’s just nonsense. 99% of his claims (no evidence either) are informing people or helping them with a dilemma.</p>
<p>To @silverturtle. I apologize. I just didn’t like being called out for such a minor thing. I wasn’t trying to spread false information. All I said was that I’ve seen numerous people wanting to retake high SAT scores. I didn’t think my statement would have such a profound impact.</p>
<p>And to @ccuser18, yes you are correct. @silverturtle is a valued member to this community. I thought his SAT Guide was very well written with a wealth of information.</p>
<p>Like I said I just didn’t like being called out. Once again, I apologize and hope we could all move on.</p>
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<p>(And to any readers who can’t follow the previous posts very well, it’s because some of them were deleted.)</p>
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<p>OHRLY???</p>
<p>Okay, now I’ve fulfilled my “useless post” quota.</p>
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<p>OP, there has been no demonstrated preference for either the SAT or the ACT. Take both, if you are so inclined, and submit the better score. Taking the SAT or ACT multiple times is also another option.</p>
<p>Glad you two could come to an understanding. I apologize for my nonconstructive and insulting remark. Silverturtle has contributed a lot to this site so I thought it was pretty immature to insult him so severely for his nitpicking tendencies. However, I should not have responded so rudely in turn. I’m sure if we had all responded more reasonably and constructively this misunderstanding would not have occurred.</p>
<p>In my opinion the SAT and ACT only tests how much better you can do compared to everyone else taking the test. Take both and just send whichever is best.</p>
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<p>But you fail to take into account that the curve on the ACT is much harsher than the curve on the SAT. You can’t omit a question or answer a single question incorrectly on any section of the ACT and get a 36. You can do that on both the SAT critical reading and math sections and still get a “perfect” score.</p>
<p>^ The fact that more than twice as many people score 36 than score 2400 speaks for itself. Plus, missing one on SAT Math hasn’t resulted in 800 in a long time.</p>
<p>I have seen the ACT statistics for 2009 and they are available on the internet in the ACT National Score Report. I would be interested in viewing the official statistics for the SAT if you can post a link to them. I’ve taught prep courses for both tests. My opinion – and I concede that it is just that – is that the ACT is the better test and much more difficult to score well on than most students think.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.act.org/news/data/09/pdf/National2009.pdf[/url]”>http://www.act.org/news/data/09/pdf/National2009.pdf</a></p>
<p>People with 36: 638</p>
<p><a href=“http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat_percentile_ranks_composite_cr_m_w.pdf[/url]”>http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat_percentile_ranks_composite_cr_m_w.pdf</a></p>
<p>People with 2400: 297</p>
<p>I, and almost everyone I know personally and a seeming majority on CC, find the ACT to be easier. Now, which test is “better” is a substantial issue that I won’t get into right now.</p>
<p>^ Could you please “get into” it? I am quite interested.</p>
<p>Thanks. How many students in total took the SAT? And how do you adjust for the fact that an SAT 2400 includes the writing section and the ACT 36 does not?</p>
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<p>1,530,128, which is about 50,000 more than took the ACT.</p>
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<p>I don’t adjust for it. However, the ACT does include the English section; the essay of the SAT Writing section accounts for only one third of that section’s points. So the comparison seems pretty fair, considering that the ACT Composite and the SAT Composite are what are typically equated and that the essay score is merely supplementary.</p>
<p>^Not sure that I’m following you. Are you saying that the concordance tables typically equate the four sections of the ACT which make up the ACT composite with SAT CR + Math, but that the SAT writing section is not included? To my knowledge, that’s the way it was done before the SAT was revamped, but not anymore. Please clarify. Thanks.</p>
<p>^ I’m saying that colleges typically equate the SAT Composite Score (CR+M+W) to the ACT Composite Score (no essay). Most of their tables probably look like this:</p>
<p>[Estimated</a> Relationship between ACT Composite Score and SAT CR+M+W Score](<a href=“http://www.act.org/aap/concordance/estimate.html]Estimated”>http://www.act.org/aap/concordance/estimate.html)</p>
<p>Note that 36 concords to 2390.</p>