SAT, SAT II and ACT Question

<p>If one has high SAT scores, but SAT II scores that are not as impressive, and then took the ACT and got a high composite score, and decides to submit all the scores, will the high ACT composite score and high subscores cross out the SAT II subject test scores?
I know that if one submits the ACT and SAT scores, that colleges will generally take the higher of the two, but am not sure if that means that if the ACT is higher it will override the less impressive SAT II subject tests scores.</p>

<p>Traditionally SAT I has been thought of as somewhat more than an aptitude test but less than an achievement test while the ACT is more of an achievement test. The ACT therefore by itself should be regarded by most colleges as making up for low subject tests. I might submit just the ACT.</p>

<p>Thanks Mardad for your response. I wondered if with mid to high 700's on the SAT I if the colleges should see that even if it meant seeing the less impressive SAT II's. If just the high ACT was sent they would not see those scores. I did call a few admission offices at the other day to check since I had not seen any responses to my question so I still was not sure. Yale said that if one sends both the SAT I and the SAT II subject tests, and the ACT, they will accept the higher of the two. Either the SAT I and the three SAT II tests or the ACT alone. They said that they take the composite ACT and convert it to a SAT score on the 1600 scale, and if that conversion is higher than the SAT I score on the 1600 scale, they will count the higher converted ACT number. Since they accept the ACT alone, they will not count the SAT subject II tests as they would be using just the ACT score. The ACT has to be taken with writing.
University of Pennsylvania said the same thing.
There are students who get accepted to these schools with just the ACT alone which they convert to a number on the 1600 scale. Both schools said that while the ACT could just be sent, since the SAT I was so high it should definitely be sent too.
Harvard on the other hand does not allow students to send just the ACT alone. They have to send either the SAT I and three SAT II subject tests, or the ACT and three SAT II subject tests.</p>

<p>Wow? Is that really true? When you send in both ACT and SAT scores, Yale will convert your ACT to a new SAT score and see which is higher? You really called?</p>

<p>This is what an admissions rep told me when I called. This is what they also told me at Penn. There are some people who for one reason or another have taken both the SAT I and SAT II subject tests and the ACT and want to submit both. Most students probably dont send both. I think that both should only be sent if the applicant did extremely well on both the SAT and ACT and just wants to reinforce his or her record, or the student did great on the SAT I test but scored not as impressive on the subject tests, and scored very high on the ACT but does did not want to send just the high ACT score when they also scored high on the SAT I. I think that most colleges want to accept students with high scores either for the SAT or the ACT as this affects selectibility, yield and the US news report college rankings, and it is to their benefit to count the highest scores. This is why they they count the highest SAT score from each section
The exception is Harvard (I dont know if there are others). They do not accept just the ACT alone. They also require the subject tests, so this would not apply.</p>

<p>Whoa, so if I scored decently (32) on my ACT and pretty well (2200) on my SAT I, but with rather subpar SAT IIs, will they not look at my SAT II scores?</p>

<p>Apparently yes.</p>

<p>I like my ACT and SAT II's, but not my SAT I. :&lt;/p>

<p>Oohhh, thank you, this information is very useful for me. I've been worrying about whether to send just my ACT or also my SAT score, even though I have a couple crappy SAT II scores.</p>

<p>i don't like that system.. i have a 33 on the ACT (1470) and a 1420/1600 on the SAT with 2 800s in subject tests (math and history).. i just wish they would substitute the ACT for the SAT... hopefully they don't overlook the SAT IIs</p>

<p>sahil.patel89, I fully agree. :mad:</p>

<p>1420 and 1470, in the scheme of things probably isn't that big a difference. They are both above 1400, so I wouldn't worry. I think that if I had a 33 ACT with say a 1350 and two 800's under my belt, I might be a little more uspet.</p>

<p>Wow, sahil.patel, besides the SAT II's (I don't have any 800's yet :() we have the EXACT same stats! Weeeeird...</p>

<p>haha that's pretty crazy</p>