Aw c’mon, @paul2752 , having a pulse is definitely worth 12 points.
I am one fo them whose SAT was canceled… I received the Email when I was in airport. I do not know to express my disappointment and anger…
Colleges should ditch the SAT/ACT and give tests with different format each year so that no one can be sure how the tests will look like. There is no need for standardized testing. This will make prep companies go away and students stop cheating.
Really? You think colleges would cover the cost of developing and administering tests to students all over the country? That sounds nuts.
The CB has yet to release a credible concordance table for the new PSAT administered in Oct 2015-- that was more than 3 months ago. Can u imagine the chaos for a new test format every month?
Agree with intparent. Test development, item selection, concordance with levels of difficulty, etc, is no easy task. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t develop several versions, or mix up/reuse individual test items in the development of alternative versions. But while yes, CB should try harder to develop tests, people shouldn’t engage in broadcasted, large scale, organized cheating. That just stinks.
It’s not as nuts as the current situation now. All other countries in the world don’t use standardized test but they are doing fine.
Doing fine in what regard? Agree that our country is too focused on testing, but many countries test their kids at an early age and then track them towards vocational vs academic educations.
@coolweather
Actually, America is not a very test focused country, as the test result is not the only thing that matters.
The US, China, India - and the middle eastern and larger European countries to some extent- are countries with large populations that have to compete for limited resources and university chairs. There needs to be a method to filter out a smaller group. The system needs to be reasonable and low cost. Therefore, Standardized testing is a viable tool for our filtering task.
As for each college having its own test, the French Grandes Écoles do that, and I hear that it is FAR more stressful than having to sit for one test.
@jym626 actually, compared to most countries of similar or lesser population, the United States is noticeably less test focused, due to having an abundance of universities.
^ I did not mean each college has its own tests. Just no standardized tests and repeated tests.
The problem doesn’t solely lie on the extremely small portion of the Chinese test-takers; College Board’s regulation is terribly flawed. Tests in Asia are generally recycles from the US and there’re people analyzing which test CB recycles every time. Many are “coerced” into looking at these unused tests from North America because this pattern CB created gave “clever” people a huge advantage. If CB is willing to develop new tests for Asia, it would be another story. CB’s poor regulation is many students’ reason to switch to ACT.
Also to some of you, please stop generalizing Chinese as cheaters. Give some respect, not only to Chinese, but also to yourselves. Saying that US should ban Chinese students is like Trump’s building a wall along the boarder. What a genius!
Its border, not boarder. What a genius.
It’s “it’s” not “its”.
I wonder why the CB can’t at least mix and match questions rather than recycling entire tests. That would guve far less of an advantage.
I rarely bother with apostrophes when it doesn’t autocorrect (like it does here on my iPad.) There are other errors in the post by the “new” poster above, but that was the most amusing. And what was said has been said a gazillion times, including in this thread, if it had been read.
When I was in graduate school in Boston in the 90s, it was about 80% Asian students and they seemingly thought it was just fine to get their grades by cheating. I felt that many of the students could not even understand what the faculty member was saying and many of them would try to get answers from the non-Asian students. I put some blame on the university for accepting students into a program when they likely knew full well what was going on.
When I read the comments like “Chinese students are cheaters, U.S. Colleges should ban Chinese students”, I was reminded Nazi used similar logic to justify their genocide of Jews. Very disturbing.
The cheating is unbelievable and in some countries it is institutionalized and sanctioned. In NY state the numbers of students from places like China getting their degrees from NY state schools without being able to write one sentence in proper English is astounding. And, it is a bit like they are on Noah’s arch in the sense that they walk through campus and take classes two by two. And they are being admitted, I would guess, for the extra tuition (that the local campuses get to keep) despite costing Albany and tax payers for each student (I assume the local campus must be able to keep a portion of the goodies because it is the only thing I can think of that would make them attractive to the university.) The numbers of BMWs on university center campuses increased in proportion to rises in the numbers of international students.
No one is planning on killing cheaters. The analogy is quite offensive.
Genocide of Jews began with the boycott of Jewish shops and you know where it ended. What bothers me the most is the generalization of the entire race on this cheating thing. Then is it OK to call all the Muslims terrorists? Is it OK to call all the Caucasians racists? I think not.