saw someone cheating today in my biology exam ... torn.

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<p>Muraski:
Who do you think you are? My posts have been very consistent. That last post doesn’t state my position on anything. For your post, that is another story. </p>

<p>For example: You said early, “I'll still maintain whatever moral compass I have, and I partially agree that ratting out the culprit would have been not-so-pragmatic.”</p>

<p>……..Drew00 brings up a story about cheating…………….</p>

<p>Your Response:
“Immature? Maybe. Hilarious? Definately. What goes around comes around, kudos to you.”</p>

<p>^ Your response here demonstrates what great character and “moral compass” you possess.</p>

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<p>lixuelai, I wasn't really referring to the girl involved with my Enron comment, but more to the people who have been replying in this thread with ad hominem attacks and the people who have been expressing certain views about cheating that really disturb me. I do admit that my Enron comment may have been a little misaimed -- I felt it was necessary to say something supporting the OP after another comment along the lines of "You're an <em>expletive</em> loser and you should go die," but wasn't really responding directly to them -- but I still do maintain that some of the attitudes expessed in this thread are equivalent to the ones that very easily could have been at the heart of the Enron scandal. Earlier in the thread, someone said that, "you never turn anyone in.. its the teachers job to check for cheating and if you dont get caught its their fault.. kind of like a bank error in your favor." Personally, I think that's exactly the same sort of thing. Of course, the people at Enron did get caught, but I believe it's a similar sort of attitude that people are entitled to the rewards of cheating/fraud if they can get away with it that must be present for someone to continue it over a long period of time. I hope that clears up what I meant.</p>

<p>About the original situation, I think it comes down to a matter of ethics versus morals. As a student, it would be ethical to follow the honor code and turn the girl in. As a human being, I'm not sure if it would really be moral, given all her circumstances. I can understand why someone who really takes his school's honor code seriously would at first consider turning her in, but I also think the OP made the right choice by choosing not to.</p>

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<p>Hahahah you should hella turn her in and watch her suffer. Schadenfreude, was it?</p>

<p>This thread is hilarious.</p>

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Muraski:
Who do you think you are? My posts have been very consistent. That last post doesn’t state my position on anything. For your post, that is another story.</p>

<p>For example: You said early, “I'll still maintain whatever moral compass I have, and I partially agree that ratting out the culprit would have been not-so-pragmatic.”</p>

<p>……..Drew00 brings up a story about cheating…………….</p>

<p>Your Response:
“Immature? Maybe. Hilarious? Definately. What goes around comes around, kudos to you.”</p>

<p>^ Your response here demonstrates what great character and “moral compass” you possess.

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<p>My idea of morality may be different from yours. I believe cheating is bad, but I also believe that people can get what they deserve. Hence my claim, 'What goes around comes around'. I'm generally against cheating, and therefore am happy that the person got hers in the end. She cheated to get ahead, and though Drew00 reflects on his actions to find them immature, in the end they ended up hurting the person who cheated in the first place. I find this funny, and don't find it immoral, therefore I see no contradiction.</p>

<p>Ironically enough, the example you use to try to make me look lie a hypocrite actually reinforces my general advocacy (which I explained above). But you somehow claim your posts are consistent . . . . </p>

<p>YOU on the other hand started reaming this guy about even thinking about ratting her out, but now you ream him about not doing it. You never explained that, and have no idea what you're talking about. If you think I contradicted myself, you're sadly mistaken.</p>

<p>You did what tons of people do--pick a portion of my response and then find some random thing to try to discredit it. Not only is your example pointless (as I'm not advocating something I don't find moral by saying what happened in Drew00's situation is funny), but you fail to give the least bit of explanation as to how you don't completely attack the OP from two opposing sides. I'm a guy who get's irritated when people do things like that. That's who I think I am.</p>

<p>And it's 'Murasaki', not 'Muraski'.</p>

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<p>dont turn her in thats friggin stupid who cares? worry about your own grades</p>

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<p>Murasaki:
Relax or your head is going to explode. Slowly move your eyebrows toward the ceiling and back down. Take a deep breath. Hold. Release. Repeat as necessary.</p>

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<p>JERK:
So you're pretty much wrong, eh? As others, <em>cough cough hikaru cough cough</em> you see a thorough response, and are only able to respond with 'calm down man!!!!11'.</p>

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<p>I know my opinion probably doesn't even matter anymore everybody knows what "the right thing to do" would have been. But the reality is "the right thing to do" is probably a lot easier to do in elementary school which i assume none of us are in. We're not living in Barney's world anymore. I respect jnesse's idea to think of turning this girl in but I know I probably wouldnt have even thought of turning this girl in. And I also know if somebody in my school told a teacher about someone cheating I would be thinking "what a snitch?" I'm not gonna lie. That Stop snitchin stuff is pretty serious. Its more understandable if you get beat up by some really cool popular kid and you have to go and tell some sort of authority. People would still be talkin sh%&t. But in a case such as yours, it will be the same thing but to a much greater extent because it wasnt even as necessary. I know it stinks that ppl cheat these days but that's life and there's know point in trying to ruin one measly little person's life or "help" them so they won't do it again. I'm sure he or she will eventually have to change or he or she will get caught. Also, I assume you live in England so it must be different there, which is why it may seem foreign to some ppl for u to wanna turn that girl in.</p>

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<p>He already decided not to.</p>

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<p>Thats why I said "I know my opinion probably doesn't even matter"</p>

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<p>There was no way I could have extrapolated that you already knew the outcome based on that single statement. I assumed that you merely thought the dilemma was long passed.</p>

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<p>oh, my fault then</p>

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<p>no harm, I was just confused . . .</p>