@xyz123a Don’t be so sure that they won’t have to reregister; apparently in an email sent out to Amherst faculty yesterday (even though we are sticking to the traditional two-semester model and reopening two weeks early), they said they are having all students reregister with knowledge of which classes will be fully in-person, which will be in-person with remote components, and which will be fully remote. That’s also another motive for professors to stay in-person; they are likely to lose a significant proportion of students if they don’t.
Regarding K-8. Anyone listen to The Daily podcast today? They interviewed a 5th grade teacher from Columbus Ohio. It will be really devastating in terms of lost learning for some kids and schools not to be back in person. The online learning as we know is just not equitable across all students and so many just can’t thrive or even survive with that platform.
Yes, vulnerable students suffer disproportionately with online learning. Even for the best students, I think it would be mostly a waste of the year. Parents who can are investigating tutors and charter school alternatives.
Woah, harsh. No, I said, nicely, that I agreed with your example but felt it wasn’t the “only” benefit of APs and went on to say more as did others.
Another benefit of AP credits that some students use: avoiding graduating late if they need to take reduced course loads to leave time for other commitments like work or family. Granted, this is not so common in this forum’s demographic, but may be more applicable to the financially limited student commuting to a local public university while also working a significant number of hours to help pay for school.
I think the state wide testing will be eye popping in a few years when the kids that got left behind now are still behind.
Our Colorado superintendent emailed an update today, and he mentioned that since our state and county transmission rate is below 1 he is optimistic that school can be close to normal with masks. That was a shock.
I also talked to an administrator at my kid’s old elementary school, and she said they don’t think it will be that tough. They plan to have the kids marshal by classroom in different parts of the grounds, and then enter the school distanced from other classes. Once in their rooms they will only leave for recess and there will be 3 recesses. It helps that all the classrooms have a bathroom attached.
What do you mean ‘The Ohio State University’ is a ‘bit much?’ That is the university’s official name. No one, and I mean NO ONE, in Ohio abbreviates it as ‘tOSU.’ I have only seen it here on CC. In Ohio, it is ‘OSU.’ The ‘t’ is added by CC posters to distinguish it from other universities which are also OSU, I guess. Not needed in Ohio since we believe the universe revolves around OSU.
No one in Ohio calls OU ‘The Ohio University.’ It is either ‘OU’ or ‘Ohio.’
The Ohio State University is the third largest university in the U.S., by the way. 8th biggest producer of engineers. I think the largest number of undergrad alumni in the US. And often has a decent football team. But I prefer the marching band, personally.
@ucbalumnus. Your point that the AP credits can afford the students some needed or desired flexibility is a good one. My son will enter college with a full year of AP credits. Because most of them are STEM courses and he plans on an engineering major, he will repeat many of those courses if advised to do so (typical for any university for their engineering majors). However, he will still have sophomore standing, which helps with priority for scheduling some classes.
It is comforting to know there is a cushion there. I think many kids need it, and I think the COVID situation will make that more true during the next couple of years.
I kinda like Stanford’s band. Edgy, irreverent, and the only college band that I know of that was actually banned from a state.
K-6 in CT—same here.
My sister told me that in her town they are thinking of having 6-12 on-line, and spreading the K-5 throughout all the district’s buildings. She thought a lot of 6th grade kids could stay at home by themselves, and for those that can’t, maybe you buddy up with one family that has older kids, and you make that your bubble.
The districts have all been working on plans that include alternating days, having some in school in the mornings, some in the afternoons, some at home with others in school. IMO, none of those will work because there are family units, there are young kids who can’t be unsupervised, those who need breakfast and lunch every day. My friends who are teachers aren’t willing to work more hours. A lot of the districts were working on the plan that there could only be 10 in a classroom. Now they are thinking more like 20-24. My friend teaches middle school computer classes and has 32 in her classes. They have to find a way to accommodate all 32 students.
Catholic schools in the Denver archdioceses are going to be as normal as can be (mostly k-8 schools, I think there are 2 high schools in the system). A lot of the schools are older and the classrooms held 60 students in the olden days. They can easily hold 25 desks and a teacher’s desk. Things like lunch and recess may have to be thinned.
So the public schools are going to be under a lot of pressure to return to school in full strength.
The Stanford band, its tuba player in particular played a significant role in The Play in The Game. As a Cal fan it made me appreciate the Stanford band, especially once I heard it actually has a pretty good sense of humor. When Stanford played Oklahoma a while back, the band played “You don’t have to be lonely… at FarmersOnly.com.”
Some colleges have a policy where duplicated course work can only get credit once (i.e. if a student takes the college course that covers the same material as AP credit, the AP credit is cancelled). This can mean losing the higher standing that the AP credit would have gotten.
Also, some colleges have a registration priority system that may (a) be based on class level based on semesters since entry instead of or in addition to class standing based on credit, and (b) have different priorities other than “higher class standing goes first” (e.g. may give priority for upper level courses to students declared in the major, and may give priority for lower level courses to frosh/soph students).
In terms of whether to repeat AP credit when the college allows taking advanced placement, the student can try the old final exams of the college’s course that can be skipped to check knowledge by the college’s standards. That will allow for a more informed placement decision.
Apparently the article “the” is important to some.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/14/us/the-ohio-state-university-trademark-trnd/index.html
FYI I’m also a marching band fan, mostly for Michigan (where my DS is on the drum line) but also for ALL marching bands, regardless of the rivalry.
That’s an interesting idea, but the secondary parents would howl about that here. Every parent wants their kid in school as much as possible. My school system has come up with a plan, which would treat/hinder each grade level the same. That plan is to have the students come in two (alternating) days a week, so each school would be split into an A group and a B group. One day a week would be a teacher workday (remote?). Of course, the parents of the elementary kids say their kids need in-person instruction with no remote learning and the parents of the older kids say their kids need in-person instruction because their mental health will suffer if they are not in a social environment.
And then there are the buses, and my state’s guidance on that appears to be very strict.
My state is doing quite well now, but that can all change, as it can with any state. Bordering states aren’t doing quite so well.
I do some volunteer activities in high schools, but I won’t be helping with them this coming year (supposing they even have them).
FWIW, Wesleyan was chartered as “The Wesleyan University” because it was, well - the only one at the time. Also, like the word, Catholic, the word Wesleyan can be used as both a noun and an adjective.
How are working parents going to handle a fall with kids only partially back to school? Sounds like a day care nightmare.
my 1st grade teacher friend was telling me about her recent training to teach via iPad. She’s learned how young kids can really only do 20 minutes at a time; and basically need a parent sitting next to them to do the work at home; and then to come back to the iPad for the next lesson. the kids coming in to her first grade haven’t had real instruction since march 6 and will be behind to begin with.
OH man. for our low SES district, with 100+ different languages and families who are struggling . . . this just sounds like there will be many kids left behind. I agree with @AlwaysMoving above.