If he has others in the apartment or house, they could leave food by the bedroom door for him to get. He would still have to use the bathroom, though.
If he lives alone, he could order food and other items for delivery.
This would not be too different from people going to Hawaii or Maine who are required to quarantine in their hotel rooms for 14 days after arrival.
Maybe the certification part is what drives must be on campus f2f or online is fine. Engineering, elite prestige schools, and schools that the students just want a degree (CSU’s) are far more likely to be online because it 's the certification (piece of paper) that matter. Just a thought.
A number of engineering courses have labs, as do the foundation courses, making it difficult to satisfy all the requirements with an online only format.
Have you ever been to UCLA? It’s right off the Interstate 405 and located in one of the busiest freeways corridors in the U.S. It could take a commuting student over an hour just to get to campus. Parking is also limited and the college is spread out. Not ideal at all for a commuting freshman.
In addition, UCLA (and most of the UCs) are not commuter colleges and always have guaranteed housing for freshman. These are not CSUs which have a larger population of commuters.
My D’s friend was suppose to room on campus with two other friends. Now she is living at home this year and commuting to college!
Not offering local freshman housing IS a big deal for our state public flagships.
It is unlikely that there will be as many commuters (to work) and traffic jams as before for at least a few years.
@Leigh22 Yes, you do because even if your conscious allows one to not care about the asthmatic student down the hall or middle aged cleaning person or professor in her 60’s etc etc…one might feel the pressure of not sickening one’s friends and/or students failing to do this on a large scale basis will surely mean (Campus closed)–as I have told my daughter—You will have whiplash how fast you will be home sleeping in your little brothers room under a giant 76’s poster. So fall in line…so you can stay at school!
I don’t follow at all. If a student gets sick and they are in a double (alone) but that room has a shared bathroom (like you said, have never seen a dorm with a private on suite for each room, but have seen the setup where 2 dorm room share a bathroom) - do they stay in this “single” with shared bath for quantine or go somewhere else? If they go somewhere else, there is now an empty “single” not being used. If they stay, it’s not a great quantine if they have to share a bathroom.
At least if it was a double, the room would not stay empty.
My daughter goes to UMD College Park. She is a sophomore and in a group of five students in a suite with three bedrooms one is a single and the other two are doubles. Her room is a Bunked double because it is 3 feet smaller than the other double. Still a large room. They have a living room in the middle and two bathrooms I believe.
So let me preface this by saying that 25% of the University’s 8,900 Undergrad students that were expecting to have housing will not have housing. My daughter still has her housing. We are OOS. All five girls got an email this morning that said their housing is confirmed but my daughters email said that due to the configuration of her room she was going to be reassigned. So when we called residence life they said that the two girls in the bunked double room would not be able to live together because it was 3 feet smaller. We could decide which girl was going to be reassigned to another dorm —possibly a lounge in a dorm that was going to be made into makeshift rooms…decided “sometime soon”. Great! Unfortunately for my daughter none of those girls have decided to leave that housing arrangement and go with her off-campus :(. I guess they don’t make friends like they used too! There is almost no nearby off campus housing left right now so we’re not gonna wait around for whatever crappy accommodations are left so my daughter leased an awesome apartment and is going to wing it and go random. They do roommate matching and individual leases.
Super emotional stressful day!
I have a question…Schools made a decision to make all rooms to be “single”. Are students / families charged for “single” room fee even though they requested “double” or “triple”?
As for those local UCLA freshmen required to commute: It will be interesting to see what happens with traffic. In Boston, the traffic backups have begun again, and I think the thought is that despite many people working from home still this fall, traffic will be fully back as more people choose to drive vs. taking the train due to covid concerns on public transportation. But perhaps LA was always so dependent on cars, that there will only be the benefit of more people working from home without the downside of the abandonment of public transportation?? I sure feel sorry for those UCLA local freshmen regardless—not an ideal way to start school. This virus sure is a #@$%!
Mom517, so sorry to hear that; just awful.
UMD will have an entire dorm committed to isolation/quarantine. Leonardtown . As far as mentioned commuting concerns at least in the case of UMD classes over 50 are online and classes under 50 prob are online also unless they are: Capstone, Clinical, Lab, or Performance…so no real need to commute! Not sure what UCLA’s plan for in person classes looks like?
@Mwfan1921 wrote:
I guess it boils down to the “eww” factor: Do people consider sharing the same bathroom a “close contact”?
My off campus student (incoming senior) will definitely self quarantine if she is told to. She’ll be in a house with 4 other girls and they have already talked about it, including switching bathrooms, getting food, etc.
This same group located said house in LA while all in their home states…it can be done! But, unlike incoming freshmen, they had their group together already. I certainly hope that freshmen are getting all the priority for limited on campus housing.
@mom517 , these housing changes are super stressful. I’m glad you got it nailed down. Our kids are definitely getting lots of lessons in flexibility!
On the contrary, if it were a double, now two students would have to be [separately] quarantined and the room would still remain empty.
No one knows what is going to happen in the fall with respect to the virus. Some colleges are more risk-averse than others. If there’s a major outbreak on campus, only colleges with all (or a portion of) their students living on campus (or off-campus in facilities fully secured by the colleges), with dorms properly de-densified and with sufficient capacity to isolate/quarantine infected and potentially infected students have a chance to successfully deal with the outbreak. All other colleges are taking significant risks. We all hope the virus won’t spread to any campus this fall, but it’s highly unrealistic. Are the colleges prepared? Are we? Many aren’t.
Not if the contact doesn’t meet the definition of less than 6ft for more than 15 minutes. If we think students can do the rest of the things that will be required of them…SD, masks, daily health checks, etc., seems like they can stagger their bathroom visits and/or managed the distance there too. Perhaps it’s the potential of fecal transmission via toilet aerosilization that is the issue, more ewww factor…but I haven’t seen any CDC guidelines on that.
@Mwfan1921 wrote:
YMMV (sorry.)
This is why we can’t have nice things. 
I don’t think parents and students are quite understanding the situation. Covid rules aren’t an à la carte menu that they get to choose from based on personal preferences. Students who are frequent violators can be barred from entering classrooms or, in extreme cases, risk getting suspended or expelled.
I know people are impatient to find out what college will be like in the fall, but so much depends on where we are with the virus. Can you tell them what their county’s positivity rate will be in mid-August? Do you know if their state will allow sporting events or social gatherings of more than 10? Do you have the numbers for the population density that will be permitted in each building? Is it 100%, 50%, or something else? How many students are committed to coming back? Many of these are out of the colleges’ control. It depends on the Phase the governor says we’re permitted to be in, and that’s determined by data we don’t have yet.
I think most states will respond to numbers. If there’s a surge, expect more restrictions. Expect restrictions anyway, including mask wearing, social distancing, limited in person experiences, quarantines (perhaps multiple for some students), and flex courses (delivery method may change in response to surge data). Faculty are being given the option to choose how they want to teach, so students returning to campus has no bearing on whether or not faculty will be there. Shut down plans are part of fall planning, so expect colleges to de-densify as needed/required by their state government.
To those who are so eager to know your college’s plans, have you told them yours? What colleges can do hinges a great deal on state regulations any given day. But a not insignificant amount depends on how many students commit to attend. How do you expect them to plan a semester if a large percent of people refuse to tell them whether or not they’ll attend?
From this morning’s NY Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/briefing/john-bolton-coronavirus-danny-masterson.html
@austinmshauri well I was only talking about everyone facing the same way in a classroom where they are masked and six feet apart. No CDC rule or state one says anything about turning your head.
Totally agree that it’s going to matter where the school is located and what’s going on locally although, so far, it seems colleges’ Covid rules are stricter than what’s happening just off campus in the town surrounding them. So I don’t even know if colleges will allow the things their county is allowing. Or maybe their starting point will be very strict so kids understand how it could be and then the school can be flexible and follow the local rules.
As for have we told Bowdoin that S is coming? No one has enrolled yet officially for fall. No registration or housing has been done yet. They pushed it to July. And students are supposed to tell the college if they are coming two weeks after we get the plan which is hopefully coming soon.