School in the 2020-2021 Academic Year & Coronavirus (Part 1)

Why a few days prior? If positive then what will you do. If your going to test then test then 14 day quartine no matter the result since you can test the next day and he could be positive. Right? But the end result is having to quarantine so just do that.

I have a feeling some of these outbreaks such as at fraternity row were down somewhat deliberately. Its the “lets get this over with before fall” mentality that I am seeing in some of these college kids. I hate to admit, but if my D17 did not have a job that required her to be careful and be Covid free, she might entertain the thought of getting Covid and living with other “covid positive” young adults while she was recouperating and “at home”. This way come fall she would be recovered and though there is not answers if that gets you immunity, it would lesson the anxiety of getting it while living on campus or taking classes. Just the though process of some of these college kids. I am not proud that she has these thoughts, and she does have a job that would be gone and is dangerous to others if she gets covid, so she is being careful

Actually it just might make sense for them to be tested when they land and settled. Could get it on the plane ride over. If just hanging at the house at the start they are basically quartining.

Great points.

We’re trying to make regular testing part of the routine since it appears the virus will be around for awhile.

My spouse will need to travel for work soon, so we plan on her getting tested upon returning.

We’re trying to decide a plan for the HS children once they return to f2f classes. Should we try for once a week?

see, this is why I’m asking. Is no one else having their kids tested before they move back in with their off-campus friends? Most schools testing kids when they arrive. Maybe we will just do that. If there’s a positive case among them, they’ll deal with it during the first two weeks

Tests in our state are available but results are still taking days in most cases. My son will be off-campus in an apartment and I don’t believe his school will be requiring those students to be tested. My daughter will be tested weekly at her school because she will be living in a dorm and part of an athletic team, but we are still waiting for details regarding move-in; will she take a test 3 days before she leaves? Will she just show up and quarantine for 14 days?That we don’t know.

Nope. Kid has to fly almost 5 hours nonstop from home to off campus apartment city – 2 major airports plus an uber. A negative test before all that is basically meaningless. Plus it takes days to get results in our state. School hasn’t given any details about its testing other than coming later this summer.

@mom1720 I’m sure it’s not meaningless to the others on the flights or the Uber driver.

I was glad to read the end of your post that your D is being careful. I have stated this before, but my son was really sick with a virus while on campus last Feb/March. While he has been unable to get tested, others in what he believes to be “his chain of infection” have been able to get tested and have tested positive.

My son is in fantastic shape, eats a healthy diet, and doesn’t smoke or vape. This virus kicked his butt, and he is still suffering its effects months later. Thankfully, his lungs are recovering, and we and his doctor are hopeful that there will be no long-term damage.

This thing is definitely not something anyone should purposely try to get for the sake of “getting it over with.”

Please educate your daughter. Show her articles on the subject. Not the way to go.

My son is going to start sharing an off-campus apartment (2-bed/2-bath) with a friend in the same program who has almost same class schedule as my son in fall semester. They both plan to move in at least 2 weeks before first day of fall semester, just incase a 14-day quarantine is required by State in mid August. His school will test “all students” (dorm / hotel-dorm / off-campus apartment) who will be in-campus at arrival but I don’t really know when they mean “arrival” for off-campus apartment students. Recently, my son’s roommate who never had Covid-kind symptoms had antibodies test with his entire family in his State and got a negative result but one of his family members got a positive result. Very confusing… I am working on getting my son to have antibodies test in next few weeks. Positive result may not mean much but we can at least have more information. We are still waiting for testing / health report policies from his school.

I hope your son is doing well and makes a full recovery.

I hope he recovers fully and am sending him good thoughts I also hope that other students who think it’s a good idea to get covid now will consider whether they want to still be recovering from it four months from now. Get it now, still not fully recovered at Halloween, does that sound like a good idea?

So all our kids will do fine whether on campus or home (or another location, until their not. Right?

So Jamie stays home for fall semester. She has online people to study with. Her dad has to go to Home depot and her mom has to go to the supermarket (geez, so stereotypical huh?). At some point one of them gets coughed on. Not a purpose and the person mask wasn’t covering their mouth /nose fully. Long story /short. Jamie gets a sore throat and is tired but can still study. She gets tested and it’s positive. So, she stays in her room as much as possible. Finds another place in the house, maybe a basement she can go to, to study that is not used by family members. She even uses the backyard which is just her. 14 days later. She tests negative but still kinda tired but her throat is better.

That’s what your dealing with. Yes, I know there can be much worst scenarios. But the more serious cases are actually rare even with the new data coming out. Sure any respiratory signs then different deal all together.

From what I have read, the US has conducted about 40 million coronavirus tests. There are people here talking about getting a test every week. Seems like there is a disconnect there.

@shuttlebus Hope your son is feeling better soon.

Given the continued relatively low level of accuracy of the tests, I do not know many doctors who put much reliance on them, so I am not sure schools should either. The false negative rate is still a big problem, and the tests seem to offer inconsistent results on the same patient sometimes.
I don’t care much whether the colleges test frequently anymore.

If you are sick, quarantine, regardless of test result. If you have no symptoms, it will be sheer luck whether an accurate test result happens to catch you pre or assymptomatically.

@roycroftmom aren’t there different tests and some actually have very good results?

This is the testing plan Yale has communicated.

*To explain on vs off campus. Historically, 25% of Jrs and 40% of Srs live off campus in apartments they lease on their own. Since all Jrs & Srs are invited back to school, they are considered part of the student body. First year students are invited back for fall term, while sophomores are to remain at home, and vice versa for the spring term. So, if a sophomore decides to move to New Haven for the fall, he has no access to the campus and will not be considered a student in residence. (Similar to plan described by @homerdog for soph, jr & sr at Bowdoin this fall.)

Students will be offered free viral testing through the Yale COVID-19 Screening Program based on the requirements below, which may change because of public health conditions and guidance.

All undergraduate students (whether living on or off campus) will be tested upon arrival to campus and will be required to undergo viral testing weekly throughout the semester.

Graduate and professional school students living in university dormitory-style housing will be tested upon arrival to campus and will be required to undergo viral testing weekly throughout the semester.

Graduate and professional students living off campus will be required to undergo viral testing once at the start of the fall semester. Additional testing is available if required by academic programs involving direct patient care or if a student has concerns about exposure.

All students arriving from outside of the United States will quarantine for 14 days in accordance with CDC and prevailing public health guidance.

All students from states with high prevalence of COVID-19 will quarantine for 14 days as required by the State of Connecticut. You can find the list of states on Connecticut’s travel advisory webpage.

Students who live in residential colleges or university dormitory-style housing who have a positive test result will isolate in separate university housing for at least 14 days and until Yale Health informs them it is safe to stop isolation. They will receive medical care and be able to take classes remotely.

Students who live off campus and receive positive test results will be asked to isolate at home for at least 14 days and until Yale Health informs them it is safe to return to campus. They will receive medical care and be able to take classes remotely.

Close contacts of students who test positive will be asked to quarantine for 14 days. They will be able to take classes remotely. The name of the individual testing positive will not be shared with contacts.

Yale Health will provide medical care as necessary for any student who becomes symptomatic with COVID-19.

I assume all juniors and seniors who are invited back must live on campus in the fall. Is that correct?

I teach Legal And Business English as an elective at my (European) state‘s civil service academy. Recently, the rules for reopening the various campuses have come out.

Everyone had single rooms anyway (dorms with doubles and triples, while not unheard of, are extremely unusual in Europe, kids would rather stay home and commute), but even suites of rooms that have shared bathrooms will be occupied by a single student only, so everyone gets their individual bathroom.

Masks required in all public spaces except for classrooms and cafeterias. Students will have assigned seats in classrooms, 5 feet apart (the legally mandated distance here) and assigned seats and staggered eating times in the cafeterias, 4 feet apart. Since students will have to walk down a row of tables to get to their assigned seats in the cafeteria where distancing is not possible and take their masks off when eating, kids in the same row will be considered a „bubble“.

All lounges, gyms, game rooms etc. will be closed. Testing and isolation according to public health office requirements, no special requirements or facilities by the school. Whether bars and restaurants are open and parties are allowed will also depend on public health guidance. Currently, parties of up to 10 people are allowed to congregate in public spaces, private indoor spaces no limits as long as distancing can be maintained. Indoor dining and cultural events are allowed with tables/seats spaced apart and servers wearing masks, patrons wearing masks when moving around but not at the tables or seats, bars and clubs still closed.

It sounds very restrictive, but doable. All students are paid and required to be there and follow the rules, or they will be forced to resign.

I would not have concerns about going back to teach. I recall my classroom being large and airy, with distancing easily possible, and when the weather was fine, there were patio doors, with seating outside that we could use. It’s a spring elective though, so this years classes are cancelled for good. Not sure whether they plan to offer something in fall, they asked me whether I was willing to come back at any point and I said yes.