@GKUnion asked:
It’s gonna take at least three days. Arrival times are being assigned to each class and will be staggered beginning at the end of August.
@GKUnion - Notre Dame is also sending the LabCorp test kits out to every student. You must test negative before returning to campus. I just don’t get the level of hysteria about this.
For those who are apoplectic by that response, welcome to exactly how I feel about your thought that it is ‘too risky’ to send kids back to college. I am sure the standoff will continue.
I ask because they intend to do it twice per week, for the entire semester, correct?
I am very interested in the logistics surrounding any school’s plan to test every student eight times per month.
@GKunion - do they test for the flu, mono or an STD with that frequency now?
Research. Remote internships. Taking other online courses that, even though they don’t transfer, are in their area of interest, networking with alums to research different careers, volunteering in the community and for political campaigns. You’d be surprised how much is out there. Companies that had summer internships are adding fall ones. Even NASA that generally does not do fall internships just added 300.
I hope you’re right but I’ll believe it when I see it. They might be scheduled to play but that doesn’t mean they want to play. There are plenty of pros who’ve come out and said they won’t or don’t want to play. We’ll see if money talks. Going to be interesting.
I mentioned this a few pages back. The city passed a new ordinance that allows the police to enter and abate (remove) people who are partying and not practicing social distancing. After that there is a meeting with tenants/landlord, an if the problem continues the building is closed.
Also, I think during the abatement the police will check everyone for alcohol and whether they are 21. Underage drinking opens up a whole nother type of charges/problems that can be used to close a party house.
Once things leave campus it’s the local police and prosecutor will have to deal with it, and often they’re not as kind or understanding.
@usma87
How is that relevant in relation to Covid testing?
@usma87 Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I’m not personally concerned about the viability of any test. I’m merely asking because people offer up protocols like these as proof of an informed, measured approach.
While I can see schools wanting to test frequently, I don’t think it will actually occur. The likelihood of them not only obtaining but doing all the required tests seems far reaching. In many states that got hit very hard, even the hospitals ran out of PPE. So are you all thinking that colleges are going to buy enough tests until Spring of 21 and that they are all going to work as expected?
We live in an area that was hit hard but is now in very good shape. Would I still send my kid off to college. Yep.
Taking a semester to watch Netflix and look for a virtual internship isn’t going to add the social and emotional skills kids need to get through life, IMO. Bad things happen and you have to keep going. Risk is inherent in most things. Long term immunity for all isn’t likely in the next six months. For us, we have decided to keep moving in the same direction and modifying our behavior as needed. Fear-based decisions aren’t playing into it. Actual bad stats in the actual area my kid lives in would count.
We are starting to see highs school graduation parties around the area. I expect that many of these kids will be headed to colleges across the country.
Someone correct me but I believe the UC system said it would cost $1billion to perform the state mandated tests for in person classes. I am supposing that means they will follow the Cal State system in all online classes
Our graduation is July 16. I can safely say that mostly all the recruited athletes are going and most of those paying full out of state tuition at public universities are considering other plans.
What’s amusing about this conversation is the apparent ignorance to the complexity that’s about to be unleashed.
Warning… the post is longer than I thought when I started…
I got a call on the 4th at 8 am that my 82-year-old, nursing home resident father was being transferred to a local hospital with a likely broken hip. He has been tested for COVID every Tuesday for 2 months, and NOBODY in his 240 resident home is positive. The staff is also tested. Had a few positives a while back, nothing in the past 6-8 weeks.
Upon arrival at the hospital, my father tests positive. Nobody he has been in contact with is symptomatic. He’s not symptomatic. The home he lives in said “that’s impossible, retest him”. They wouldn’t. I asked them to retest him on Saturday and Monday, both times they said no. 6 or 8 people are currently in quarantine for 14 days because of his test.
Surgery done…recovery underway…Now the issue.
He’s still not symptomatic. With a positive test 5 days ago, he is now 7 to 10+ days into being infected. He’s 82 with underlying health issues. Nobody he’s ever contacted is infected…all tested negative since. He’s the immaculate reception of the virus.
The home won’t take him back with a positive test. The only place he can go is a local re-hab center that is taking COVID patients. It’s literally sending him to the leper colony not knowing if he’s even sick.
I told them I will not release him without another test. 24 hours and waiting. It might be another day or 2…issues with the hospital device means they are sending them out to various labs.
Now imagine the complexity surrounding an asymptomatic 20-year-old who was in 2 classes, 6 meals, and hanging out with 12 friends in the common room over the past 3 or 4 days.
Somebody he was with tested positive, and now he’s sitting in quarantine along with 30 or 40 or the people he was in contact with, feeling fine. Waiting. After 3 days his test comes back negative, but 2 of the others in the “traced group” are positive. He wants to return to his dorm…No…you have to wait another 10 days?
Schools are “planning” all with a focus on getting kids back to school. It’s like planning on how to handle a radioactive leak attached to a herd of deer. It’s impossible. Any suggestions that the schools have “plans” or will “control” social distancing is a fantasy.
I hope I’m wrong, but I think the fall is going to make everyone long for the innocence of the April/May lockdowns. The complexity is maddening. Remote education is the only way to alleviate the frustration and anguish of complexity. It sucks, but the schools that make the tough decision now are going to look pretty smart in a few months.
Thanks EyeVee, a million unanswered questions about what could happen when all the different scenarios play out in the mandatory test, trace and quarantine regimen.
Many students who will take a gap semester or year are doing so in a rational way with a plan to move them ahead in their goals. They aren’t watching Netflix. And, for many, it’s not a decision made because of fear. Many kids are taking a break from colleges that aren’t inviting them back to campus.
My DD is taking a gap year, but will start school in fall of 2021 no matter what. You are correct that we can’t know for sure what 2021 will look like, but DD has a great plan for this year (job as an EMT, assistant coach on her former travel team, SAT tutor for 3+ high school kids) and I do think that, just as any on-line schooling will be better this year than it was over the spring, the schools will learn this year what works and what doesn’t, so 2021 will be better. And for my DD, the main reason for the deferral is social – she doesn’t want to live in a single room, she wants to be able to join a dance company and a sorority, she wants to social experience of college, and we just don’t think that will be possible this year. If she was going to be any year other than freshman, she would be going to college.
That’s a remarkably optimistic statement given what we seen so far. Better for the university and the faculty maybe
You will know in another week or two since they have to be practicing now.
@user4321 - Nearly ALL Classes are online, the question is how many kids will show up in the room for the taping. Those in the room will still be interacting with Zoom, just from a less comfortable chair.