School in the 2020-2021 Academic Year & Coronavirus (Part 1)

@sdl0625 - Has your S’s school communicated any plan? My D’s school is requiring a 14 day quarantine from certain areas too and negative test results for everyone else. The school said that students who can’t isolate at home and get a negative test before returning to campus, can isolate on campus and take their classes online (even in person courses will be recorded so students who are quarantining won’t fall behind) until they are cleared. The school also said each student can have a parent help them with move in.

I hope you hear clear guidelines soon! Hang in there!

I personally am loving the online interview thing. D21 has had eight online interviews thus far, and she has four more to go. Costs me zero in gas money and I don’t even have to get dressed (she does, though). :slight_smile:

@sdl0625 What is your S’s school saying about returning? They must have plans for this scenario to help kids - no? And it’s quite possible if your state’s numbers go down your state could be taken off the list . Not sure what state you are in, but I would think if any blame is to be cast it would be for your governor, not Cuomo. That is where your annoyance should be directed.

I believe NYS offers a 24 hour exemption from quarantine for those passing through, which could include you if moving your son in then. And of course workers in transportation, critical industries, and many government employees on business are exempt

@sdl0625 has RIT said anything about what they expect the students coming from the hot zones to do? Are they making any suggestions or accommodations?

RIT has not said anything about students coming from the hot zones yet. Right now all students have a movein from Aug 12 to 18th with classes starting on the 19th. My plan was to keep below the 24 hours when we dropped him off. no hotel stays in NY state. all RIT said is to SIP for 14 days before coming to campus. Also you have one hour to move in and only one parent may help.
They also have not said anything about testing yet. I think they are waiting for the state to approve their plan and provide guidance.

Yes and yes. Colleges want to see “getting” ready for college. They want to see stellar grades. Yes, it’s a big deal and can make a difference. From everything I have read or listened to from admissions counselors, senior year first semester grades through midterm, if not excepted EA/RD. They can especially help someone that needs a boost in GPA. So Senior year grades can make a big difference. Especially this year!

Even though not a school your applying to but Rick Clark at Georgia Tech has a great blog on this subject.

Can’t agree more. However, I’m not sure many schools are reaching out to get that knowledge. Our D has taken some classes from Stanford Online High School and the interface helps make it easier for the teacher to focus on teaching. Many Stanford University classes use a similar digital interface that’s very effective.

What my friend is saying is that last semester’s grades and this fall’s semester’s grades are questionable because they likely aren’t being delivered the way that the other semesters were so they cannot judge them like the other semesters. It’s different with the virus. Your comments are assuming that life has continued as normal.

Adding to say that I’ve read Rick Clark’s blog for a while. I even emailed him a question a few months ago and he responded!

This admissions season is NOT like others when AOs can look at grades in the same way.

@momofsenior1 A rapid and inexpensive test, of almost any kind, would be a total
Game changer. An OSU Engineering lab is working on one, too (like a breathalyzer). Imagine how different things would be if such things were all over the place?

@sdl0625, Over 32,000 New Yorkers have died from the coronavirus. That’s equal to or greater than the entire individual populations of ~6 of our 62 counties. It’s roughly half the individual populations of ~19 more. It probably comes as no surprise to you to learn that New Yorkers are over Covid too.

If you’re expected to SIP at your home for 14 days before coming to New York, you must be in an area with a lot of infections. I understand that your son is bored and needs to be back in school or his social skills will decline, and I know it’s an inconvenience to have to quarantine. What would you suggest as an alternative?

Nope. I understood what you said. Just one person’s advice that’s all. To someone that has a 3.75 and trying to get into a school and gets all A’s with 4-5 AP classes this will still stand out. Any kid that has a 3.3 and trying for more the same. Ec’s will be hard but becoming creative can be a plus. Many kids actually do better with online classes since they have time to review and if recorded and play it back several times to get the information also. This to me is when students need to step up especially if their grades need some improvement.

There are many of these already out there. In Israel they have one ready to go and waiting on fda approval or something like that.

In my opinion, it all matters. Spring and fall grades (2020); ECs, test scores, AP scores, essay, LORs, interviews, and even mid-Spring (2021) grades could matter as I know several students who got off waitlists in May and June. Do not take your foot off the pedal…

My last point is if you have the luxury to apply early decision, I think this year more than ever will give your student a huge advantage as many families will be reluctant to apply binding ED in this environment, might want to stay local, and many were not able to see these colleges in-person. I was talking with a friend yesterday and his rising senior had planned to tour a bunch of colleges last spring, this summer and early fall but CV-19 put an abrupt stop to that.

Ok I guess you all know better than a Northwestern AO. Just reporting what she said. Don’t pile on me. Her point was that these are extraordinary times. High school online has sucked. High school teachers many times do not have the funding to set up good online courses and they might even be home with their little ones so these grades are not the same as when all was well. They cannot look at them the same.

Who out there thinks that their high school student had an experience last spring that could honestly be graded the way it would have been if there had been no virus?

If you Google New York 14 day quarantine, you’ll see the link to the executive order establishing the quarantine. I’m from AL, an impacted state. So if I go to NY, I have to quarantine there for the shorter of 14 days or when I leave the state. I can’t choose to stay quarantined at my home in AL for 14 days and then travel to NY and not be quarantined. But, I can choose to travel to a non-impacted state like IL, stay there for 14 days, and then go to NY.

So @sdl0625 I have no idea about any of your constraints, such as time off from work etc, but thought I’d toss out for consideration the idea of a family camping trip at a non-impacted state. I hope you find something that works for your family. Even shaving 5 days off the 14 your son would have to spend by himself would help!

fda approval or something like that.<<<<<<<<

This is the onerous part, any tests where results are reported to a pt have to go through such steps, whipping up a quick and dirty test seems the easy part, the hard part is assuring the consumer end of its accuracy and fulfilling the regularity obligations. There will be many research unis that could provide and administer their own tests for sure but that isn’t how it can happen outside of a reaserch project.

I am just wondering about quality of on line education (zoom or any other method) for public high school and middle school students offered in spring. Our local school district is affluent, yet lot of issues were on play beyond teacher’s capabilities. I felt for my 6th grader, class participation was not at par as kids were either bored or did not know how to operate lap tops. I can not blame teachers as they are getting used to do business in new ways. How does other parent feel about it? Satisfied, not satisfied, do not care. How was the feed back on class assignments? Just wondering. My daughter wants to go back to school but we do not know what happens. I am for sure do not want her to go back as worried about COVID in large school environment settings.

I have a lot of friends who are teachers (and a sister). NONE of them thought their kids were putting in the effort or that parents were helping or supervising. One parent called my sister after 6-7 weeks and said “Oh, I thought he was doing his schoolwork and he was just playing video games.” This was not one of her poor students, just a middle class unsupervised 4th grader.

A mom who has 4 kids (plus one not in school) had to sit between her 2nd and 3rd graders and help them for 4 hours per day but her 5th and 7th graders could pretty much work independently (although she was there at the dining room table with them.

Not all parents can do that.

Distance learning in our district was an unmitigated disaster. Kids who did not seek and participate in some kind of outside learning are 4 months behind now.