<p>Innocentbystande doesn't seem so "innocent."
I don't understand why you post here, in all honesty. ND die hards are the last people you are going to convert. There's a reason ND has the largest alumni network: people not only love ND, they are committed to ND. You're never going to change their opinions of who's best.</p>
<p>I'm sure Holy Cross is a good school and all, but I would think you'd have more luck promoting it elsewhere.</p>
<p>The OP was looking for schools similar to ND. Sorry if I got carried away.</p>
<p>Holy Cross is an excellent school, and had I been rejected from ND, I would be there right now. That is not the say that it is inherently inferior to ND, just that I love ND more. Anyone seriously looking at Notre Dame would be hard pressed to dislike Holy Cross.</p>
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It's ranked higher then ND, Georgetown, and BC
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That's definitely not true. ND is tied for 19th in the nation. HC is only 33rd among LACs. Our students are brighter, our endowment is more than ten times HC's, our facilities are better, etc. etc. An ND degree is just going to carry more weight. Sorry to get off topic, just had to correct a slight error.</p>
<p>Planned Parenthood - wow. That's pretty bad. Let's hope and pray that Notre Dame never stoops to that level, especially not in the interest of making rent revenue.</p>
<p>PCB - It's ranked higher for undergraduate experience. Read the post.</p>
<p>Another "ND-like" school is Villanova outside Philly, which has a similar student body and suburban campus to ND. It's reasonably competitive as far as admissions go. Other eastern schools with ND-like student bodies and suburban locations would be Fairfield, Loyola of Maryland and Stonehill outside Boston in Massachusetts. Stonehill is actually run by the Holy Cross order, which runs ND. I agree that outside of Boston College there isn't another Catholic college with Division 1-A football, although many of the schools that have been mentioned do have football teams that play in a lower division so there are "football weekends" to enjoy. BC and ND are pretty close as far as admissions go, so if ND is an extreme reach I'd think BC would be as well. And to echo what's been said before, Holy Cross in Mass is another fine school, with a rich football tradition (playing Harvard, Yale and similar schools) and excellent academics. It's also SAT-optional, in case that's an issue.</p>
<p>I wasn't aware there was an "undergraduate experience" ranking. Could you please link to this ranking?</p>
<p>Holy Cross is the top rated Catholic LAC in the country. Of the 28 Jesuit colleges and universities in the United States, Holy Cross stands alone in having an exclusive commitment to undergraduate education. There are no graduate students at Holy Cross; the undergraduate student is the sole focus. Students receive complete faculty attention and full access to the College’s facilities. Professors conduct all classes and laboratories—there are no graduate teaching assistants. In its 2008 edition of The Best 361 Colleges, The Princeton Review awarded Holy Cross a 98/100 academic rating - the highest of any Catholic institution of higher education, including Georgetown University, University of Notre Dame, and Boston College.</p>
<p>i think a seminar like that would be beneficial and not "stooping" to any particular low level. ND administration needs to a little more opened minded to prepare its students for a world that is continually becoming more liberal.</p>
<p>It sounds like the Notre Dame guys are still upset about the results of the last basketball game Holy Cross played against Notre Dame at the Joyce Center a couple of years ago. </p>
<p>Notre Dame and Holy Cross are two great colleges.</p>
<p>I've got to be honest with you...before you started looking for places on the "top schools" board to promote HC, I'd never heard of it. That includes any past defeats in basketball.</p>
<p>Holy Cross has won the NCAA Division 1 national basketball championship, the NIT national basketball championship and the NCAA Division 1 College World Series and HC is 4th on all time list for producing MLB players:
College</a> Baseball Players Who Made it to a Major League Baseball Team - Sorted by College Quantity</p>
<p>Bob Cousy and Tommy Heinsohn, legends of the Boston Celtics, were Holy Cross graduates.</p>
<p>Joe Montana and Moose Krause were Notre Dame graduates.</p>
<p>Looks like HC needs to raise its profile if it wants to attract top students like PutschCasusBelli, no doubt a top Latin scholar based on the name. </p>
<p>One last tidbit on our little known school-in addition to a sitting US Supreme Court Justice HC has five current members of congress-four reps plus Senator Casey of PA--all Democrats of course. 5 out of 535 total-- that's pretty good for an obscure little school.</p>
<p>Oh please lets not get into an argument over Holy Cross.</p>
<p>Notre Dame is a great school, Holy Cross is a great school.</p>
<p>Lets leave it at that, we are on the same side. </p>
<p>Jeez</p>
<p>In its 2008 edition of The Best 361 Colleges, The Princeton Review awarded Holy Cross a 98/100 academic rating - the highest of any Catholic institution of higher education, including Georgetown University, University of Notre Dame, and Boston College. It would be a great choice for anyone who could not gain admission to ND, BC, or Gtown. That is the purpose of this thread of course... not to argue but to help someone out in their college search.</p>
<p>Back to the OP's original post: I know you want something close by, but if you decide to go further afield, both Gonzaga in Spokane and University of Portland in Portland OR are worth investigating.</p>
<p>HC is only Catholic College in Prestigious Watson Fellowship program </p>
<p>The College of the Holy Cross is the sole Catholic and Jesuit representative of "47" LAC participating institutions in the Thomas J. Watson Fellowship program. The Watson Fellowship:</p>
<p>The</a> Watson Fellowship : Our Colleges : List of Participating Institutions</p>