School Suggestions For My Junior Daughter

<p>I was hoping this group would have some college suggestions for one of my junior daughters (yes twins). She is a passionate, brutally hardworking young lady, with a wide range of interests. She swims, plays soccer, pole vaults and runs track, but will not pursue these activities in college (except on an intramural level). She is a lifeguard and is getting certified in scuba. She loves the water, wants to pursue a career in marine biology/ocean engineering and save the world's oceans. I expect she will pursue an advanced degree. Her unweighted GPA is 3.75 and weighted GPA is 3.99. The school does not rank, but is a very good public high school. Her courses are all honors or AP.</p>

<p>She recently took the SAT for the first time, cold with no prep. Her scores were 600M, 600CR. She will be studying for the next few months, as she wants to improve her scores. She is not the best test taker, but feels her scores should be better. Candidly, I would not expect them to get beyond 650/650 and I am worried she will burn the candle at both ends to get her scores higher (which would be her tendency). She will also be taking the ACT and is insistent she prepare equally for both tests. Yet, she is more than a little miffed at the importance some schools place on the test results. </p>

<p>She has been looking primarily at large schools (BU, UMASS, UCONN, UCSD, UCLA, UC Santa Cruz, Uinversity of Washington, University of Oregon). Note the proximity (mostly) to the water. She can absolutely handle and navigate a large school. She wants school spirit, and the chance to go to football/basketball games. She wants to be challenged and be around smart people, but would not consider herself an intellectual. She wants the option to go to parties, but is not a partier. She wants to be engaged in community service. She definitely wants to travel abroad.</p>

<p>She does not want a small school where everybody knows each other. She would like to meet new people and new groups of people "all the time".</p>

<p>We would also like her to at least visit a couple of medium sized schools (5,000 to 10,000) so she can see something a little different. While I have a personal preference for smaller, liberal arts undergraduate schools, I want to be respectful of her choices.</p>

<p>Any thoughts out there (small, medium or large) for her to consider? We can afford to send her to whatever school is the best fit. She is appalled at the thought of us paying $50K+ for school, and she has a strong desire to be able to get merit scholarships, though she realizes that many of the schools on her list will not offer merit to an out of state student. We have encouraged her to look for the best fit possible, without regard to cost or location (though I have drawn the line at Hawaii). (We live in NJ, and her preference is to not stay in state, though she will look at Rutgers).</p>

<p>I appreciate your ideas and I would respectfully request folks not wear out their keyboard to tell us that there is little future in marine biology. I encourage my children to pursue their passion, wherever it may lead them. She is, after all, 16 and may change her mind. She will, most definitely, make a difference in whatever area she ultimately pursues.</p>

<p>Merry Christmas.</p>

<p>Cheaper than the UCs in California are CSUs like Monterey Bay, Humboldt, San Luis Obispo, Channel Islands, etc…</p>

<p>U.S. Coast Guard Academy, although it might be too small for her tastes.</p>

<p>Has she considered any FL schools? University of South Florida and Eckerd both have good marine biology programs. University of Miami offers good merit money.</p>

<p>There are some very good Canadian universities that are relatively large, probably cost less and do a lot with merit aid, which they call scholarships. Queens has great school spirit, McGill is a big part of Montreal, which is a great city. Queens is on Lake Ontario. UBC is huge. </p>

<p>People on one of these threads are high on University of Alabama, which IIRC gives great merit aid to high performing OOS students. </p>

<p>It is unlikely that as a non-resident of Washington State, you would get significant financial aid at the U of Washington. The UW has a quite well known preference for full-pay non-residents, to the detriment of kids from Washington.</p>

<p>Also, pursue undergraduate Marine Studies, Marine Biology, Oceanography if that is your passion. But it requires a graduate degree to become established in those fields. By the way, the marine program at U of Oregon in no way can match the quality/rigor of the marine program at Oregon State University. Also, neither are situated literally on the shore but the marine departments at Duke University and U of South Carolina-Columbia are darn good. People from UW, Woods Hole, etc. are on the faculty at USC.</p>

<p>By the way, the Marine science department at Richard Stockton College in New Jersey is very comprehensive. RSC is not Harvard but the curriculum is no cake walk. And it is home to the Seal Rescue Project.</p>

<p>A good Friend’s son studied marine biology at U New Hamphire. He then went on to get a Masters at U of Hawaii. He is now at working at Woods Hole and does research all over the world. </p>

<p>Carolina Coastal U and William and Mary (School of Marine Science) are medium sized and may be a good fit.</p>

<p>Thank you for the input thus far.</p>

<p>ucbalumnus - Cost is not a concern for us (her parents), but it is for her. We have been able to fully fund her undergraduate education. Should she obtain substantial scholarships, anything left could be used for grad school as needed. But we will look at some of the CSU schools. Thank you.</p>

<p>ChedarcheeseMN - I do believe the Coast Guard Academy would be too small for her. I do not believe she is looking to attend one of the service academies. Great thought, though. Thanks</p>

<p>3scoutsmom - yes, the University of Miami is on her list. I have mentioned Eckerd to her as well. If we visit Florida, I would try to visit Eckerd.</p>

<p>shawbridge - those are some good suggestions. We have not considered any of the Canadien schools. We know a couple of kids who have gone to McGill and they have loved it. I have mentioned the University of Alabama to her. She has added to the list of schools to research. Thank you.</p>

<p>LakeWashington - yes, we completely understand that she would be a strong full pay candidate for many out of state schools. If that helps her with acceptance, that is only a positive as far as her mother and I are concerned. Duke is on her list, as is UNC, both of which we consider reaches. She is also considering UNC Wilmington. I am not certain if South Carolina is on her list. She understands that her undergraduate degree should be more broad, and will likely focus on biology as a major. She would like there to be an opportunity for some emphasis/research in marine biology. She intends to pursue a graduate degree.</p>

<p>emilybee - we like UNH and have visited. Nice to read about the success of your friend’s son. It seems we only read about people not able to make a living in this field. Thanks</p>

<p>smdurf1970 - Thank you. We have encouraged her to research W&M. I think she might find it a good fit in many ways. </p>

<p>The University of Maine is strong in marine biology and oceanography and has research opportunities for undergraduates. It also has a fine Honors College.</p>

<p>The University of Southern California. USC has research activities for undergraduates. The main facility is the Wrigley Marine Science Center on Catalina Island. </p>

<p>USC offer merit money. At this time, the university offers half tuition scholarships to NMF.</p>

<p>Momfromme - thanks. University of Maine is on her list to visit.</p>

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Unfortunately, it’s a fact that jobs in Marine Biology are limited.</p>

<p>However, if your daughter took care to include enough chemistry and research in her program, she could stay competitive for laboratory research which often has direct ties to the oceans. So, while you may not be a “Marine Biologist”, you might be doing basic science or even medical research in which you work closely with marine organisms. That necessitates collecting expeditions, trips to scientific meetings at Woods Hole or Scripps Institute and other things which she would enjoy.</p>

<p>I second USC. Also look at UChicago (as a reach goal), and please DO check out the college for creative studies, one of three colleges at UCSB (besides L&S and Engineering). It is only about 60-80 undergraduates in Biology, but it has a good Marine Biology department and is part of a larger university. Just like any other student at any college, she would be an integrated member of the student body.</p>

<p>If you’re going up to Maine, take a look at the University of New England. It has many of the characteristics on your wish list.</p>

<p>My daughter is at UW. I don’t know the marine biology program there, but otherwise I think it would fit the bill. Smart school in a fantastic and easily navigable city.</p>

<p>CT resident here. UConn is not near the water! </p>

<p>We visited U of Miami this fall and loved it. It’s a beautiful campus and would certainly fit the bill in many ways. Good luck! </p>