<p>i don't CARE. i was the one who started by saying bowdoin wasn't regarded as Dartmouth. You're not a very careful reader</p>
<p>I think this arguing about status and ranking people is sick. It doesn't apply to the majority of students, as only the superstars will get the best resources offered at an ivy, and I don't claim to be a superstar.</p>
<p>Really, the only meaningful things anyone has said on this thread, is they don't think Scripps would give me as good of opportunities as Bowdoin, and then they failed to expand upon or prove that at all.</p>
<p>(I thought I might add that according to Boalt law school, it's easier to make an A at Yale than Bowdoin. Check it out. I don't know if it's accurate, but it it least would show that academic rigor is all mixed up between the LACs and ivies)</p>
<p>Just a thought from a current Scrippsie: True, most people have never heard of it. Those who have think it's great, however. The same could probably said for nearly all great colleges outside of a select few. Where I'm from, the "average person on the street" has never heard of Bowdoin, either. I'd strongly urge you to make your decision on other factors. If you're expecting most people to go "wow!" when you tell them where you go to school, you're probably going to be disappointed. From my experience, I know that a Scripps education is wonderful and valuable. I'm very, very happy with my decision and don't need external validation for it. I'd say the same is true for most other Scrippsies. Maybe it's a West Coast vs. East Coast thing, but I've found people at Claremont (with the exception of a small minority of Pomona students) to be refreshingly <em>not</em> concerned with prestige at all. And I think that's great. Heck, one of my best friends got a perfect score on the SAT and is probably the least pretentious, most modest person I have ever met. Compared to this message board (and certain East Coast communites, I guess), it's just a completely different mentality.</p>
<p>No way is Dartmouth over Amherst, Williams and especially Swarthmore. I would put Dartmouth only slightly above Bowdoin, but really can't care about such preppie and isolated schools.</p>
<p>dwincho, could you /please/ keep the irrelevant posts off my thread. you're clearly ranking on the basis of things I have not professed to care about. (Personally, I'm not preppy, but I know a not preppy person who's loving Middlebury. I think it's a bit silly to choose a school primarily for its preppiness factor.)</p>
<p>Ecape, Bowdoin is an excellent school. It has grown in reputation in recent years, too. Scripps also has an excellent reputation, but most people on the East Coast haven't heard of it. Likewise, I'm sure most people on the West Coast haven't heard of Bowdoin. I have no idea how the Midwest and the South views.</p>
<p>Why are you transferring from Smith? Once you answer that question, you might be able to have a better handle on which of the other two schools will be best for you. My gut feeling is that you'll go to Bowdoin, but I have no basis for that prediction. </p>
<p>I did notice that in the Princeton Review college book, under Scripps's category "Applicants often prefer. . . ", Smith is on the list. Scripps is not on the Smith list. On the Bowdoin list, neither all-women's college make the list, but Amherst does in the "sometimes prefer," which indicates a close match between Bowdoin and Amherst, a school you should know quite a bit about. </p>
<p>I would forget the weather issue and concentrate, as you seem to have done, on the academics and the student body.</p>
<p>Ecape, I went to classes with my friend (so this was not just a visitation for college admissions) and there was virtually no difference (these classes were in bio, which is my field of interest). Likewise, I partied it up with her as well, and the social scene is about the same. As I said before, really the only difference is the size of Dartmouth and its resources, otherwise there is NO difference.</p>
<p>Since when is a school only about the classes? and since when is a GUT SCIENCE class indicative of the quality of a school? Also, the difference is the quality of the student body, the prestige, the grad school placement, the alumni network, the recruitment (Dartmouth has virtually ALL the elite firms while Bowdoin only has one elite consulting firm recruiting, and two banks), etc, etc, etc.</p>
<p>Um who said the class was a gut science class! Not unless you think microbiology is a gut course!! I'll give you point that Dartmouth student body might be of higher quality, but certainly Bowdoin students probably comes out equal when it comes to grad school placement (this goes for Law, Business, and Med Schools). Bowdoin also has a strong alumni network, many alumi help current students get jobs.</p>
<p>i was the one who brought up the whole bowdoin/dartmouth thing. my sole intention was no compare bowdoin to scripps not dartmouth. i don't think bowdoin is quite at the same level as dartmouth (yet) but if i were to compare lac's to their research university counterparts that's how i see it. aws aren't quite hyp but they are hyp of lac's. i have a great deal of respect for women's colleges namely wellesley, smith and barnard so please don't bring the whole sexist thing into this quation.</p>
<p>I won't quote you on it ;P I'm just curious how you arrived at that conclusion? (since it seems it would be useful information). I'm guessing based on your list you are not considering just "environmental studies" per se, but rather undergraduate majors that could lead to environmental studies? (since chicago's "environmental studies" major is not particularly popular, but they're strong in the sciences and policy)</p>
<p>I think the best way to look at it is that Bowdoin is cut from a similar cloth as Williams, Amherst, and Dartmouth. Scripps has more in common with the 7 sisters, but with a Claremont twist.</p>
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i was the one who brought up the whole bowdoin/dartmouth thing. my sole intention was no compare bowdoin to scripps not dartmouth. i don't think bowdoin is quite at the same level as dartmouth (yet) but if i were to compare lac's to their research university counterparts that's how i see it. aws aren't quite hyp but they are hyp of lac's. i have a great deal of respect for women's colleges namely wellesley, smith and barnard so please don't bring the whole sexist thing into this quation.
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<p>I would put Swarthmore above all of them: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, et al.</p>