Searching for Match Schools in GA, CA or Privates?

College Search & Selection
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<p>I am the parent in CA. He can get California residency with me if he wants to consider CA schools or keep Georgia residency with his father to attend school there. Father and I are divorced. He is still under 17. I don't know how to help him</p>

<p>My son is a high school senior in a public High School in GA.
Rank 20 of 258</p>

<p>W GPA 3.86
NW GPA 3.62
UC GPA 4.30</p>

<p>SAT 1670/2400 (taken 3 times)
ACT 21 (take 1 time)</p>

<p>3 AP Classes: Human Geography, Government & Psychology</p>

<p>9th Grade:</p>

<p>French I 1 & 2 - A, A
English I 1 & 2 - A, A
Math I A & B - A, A
Honors Biology - C, B
AP Human Geography - A, A</p>

<p>10th Grade:</p>

<p>French II 1 & 2 - B, A
Honors English II - A, A
Math II A & B - B, A
Physical Sci - A, A
Honors World History - A, A</p>

<p>11th Grade:</p>

<p>English II A & B - A, A
Math III A & B - A, A
Environmental Sci - A, A
Honors US History A & B - A, A
AP Psychology - A, A</p>

<p>12th Grade (no report card yet, but has all A's)</p>

<p>English IV
Math IV
Honors Economics
AP Government
Chemistry</p>

<p>Academic Interests: History, Chemistry, mostly undecided</p>

<p>EC's
HS Track Team 2 years
NJROTC 3 years - Platoon Leader
National Society of High School Scholars
works P/T at Taco Bell 2 yrs
80+ hours Community Service, via NJROTC & High School</p>

<p>African American-White
Cost constraints: Mom, divorced, $54K income w/3 dependents; dad makes over $100K
Both parents have Bachelor's degrees.</p>

<p>Looking for help to point him the right direction. We visited Cal Poly Pomona yesterday and plan on UC Riverside next week.
Am I aiming too high for him?
Any suggestions for California or Georgia schools or any private schools?<br>
Reaches or matches or reality? </p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>UC/CSU admissions GPA is unlikely to be more than 0.3 to 0.4 higher than unweighted GPA in a-g courses taken in 10th grade or later. Were his worse grades in 9th grade or in non-a-g courses? Also, note that 8 semester cap on honors courses, and that out-of-state high school courses only count as honors if they are AP courses.
<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>Cal State Apply | CSU;

<p>You can look at the UC campuses’ admission profiles here:
[Freshman</a> admission profiles | UC Admissions](<a href=“http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/freshman/profiles/index.html]Freshman”>http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/freshman/profiles/index.html)</p>

<p>For CSUs, the usual method is to calculate an eligibility index:
<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>Cal State Apply | CSU;
However, many CSUs campuses are impacted and have admission thresholds higher than the baseline standards listed in the link above.
<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>Cal State Apply | CSU;
[Impaction</a> | Student Academic Support | CSU](<a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/impactioninfo.shtml]Impaction”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/impactioninfo.shtml)</p>

<p>UCs tend to have more liberal arts major students, while CSUs tend to have more students in pre-professional majors (business, nursing, agriculture, etc.).</p>

<p>Be sure to run net price calculators on each school, and check residency rules very carefully for waiting periods and the like.</p>

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<p>Thank you UCBalumnus!</p>

<p>Ok, yes, I counted his out of state honors. I will go back and redo the UC calculator. </p>

<p>Back.</p>

<p>I counted 16 A’s, 2 B’s (10th & 11th grade) and 3 AP (10th-12th) semesters and now get a 4.06. </p>

<p>Do I count AP Psychology as a regular A in the calulator and then again in the Honors/AP box. That would change it to 18 A’s and it would be a 4.05.</p>

<p>Does this sound right now?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>You might consider UGA as a slight reach due to test scores. University of North Georgia is a good school! Maybe Mercer as another slight reach!</p>

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<p>Unless he graduates from a California high school, it’s unlikely he’ll be considered a resident of California for tuition purposes.</p>

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<p>[CPP</a> Residency](<a href=“http://www.csupomona.edu/~registrar/academic-policies/residency.shtml]CPP”>http://www.csupomona.edu/~registrar/academic-policies/residency.shtml)</p>

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<p>I have been corresponding with a UC residence deputy about this. They sent me this on Thursday.</p>

<p>Here are the two options for you to consider. If you meet the requirements as the California resident parent then the student would need to make sure he lets the residence deputy at the campus of admission which one he qualifies for and that residence deputy will instruct the student thereafter if any additional documents are required.</p>

<p>o Dependent Child of CA Resident Parent (18 or over when student moves in with CA parent) A student who has not been an adult resident of California for more than one year, and who is the dependent child of a California resident who has been a resident for more than one year immediately prior to the residence determination date, may be entitled to a waiver of the nonresident tuition until the student has lived in California for the minimum time necessary to become a resident so long as continuous attendance is maintained at an institution.</p>

<p>o Residence Rules for Minors/ Guardians (under 18 when student moves in with CA parent) Specific rules applying to minors: Divorced/ separated parents: You may be able to derive California residence status from a California resident parent if you move to California to live with that parent on or before your 18th birthday. If you begin residing with your California parent after your 18th birthday, you will be treated like any other adult student coming to California to establish residence.</p>

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<p>Here is a detailed description of California residency from UC:
[Residency</a> guidelines: Student information | UCOP](<a href=“UC Legal - Office of the General Counsel | UCOP”>UC Legal - Office of the General Counsel | UCOP)</p>

<p>Note the 366 day waiting period. Even if he can get California residency, he may not be able to get it until after a year, so there may be a year of non-resident tuition.</p>

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<p>Thanks for the residency information. He will be under 18 and a minor when he moves to CA if he has an interest in a school here. His dad is a graduate of the University of Georgia, but my son seems to want to find his own path, even though I think Georgia is a wonderful school and opportunity.</p>

<p>Any other non-UC or specific Cal campuses? He wants to live on campus and experience college living instead of commuting. How does Cal State Channel Islands sound as a possible consideration?</p>

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<p>Op,
Both AP and honors classes can get the extra point boost on the GPA.
For CA high schools, the UC has evaluated the curricula to determine which honors classes will qualify for the 1 point boost. With a GA curriculum, maybe UC can evaluate which honors classes will qualify for the 1 point boost as well.</p>

<p>[University</a> of California Doorways Home](<a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/doorways/]University”>http://www.ucop.edu/doorways/)</p>

<p>A UC weighted GPA of 4.3 (if the honors classes qualify) is great, but the SAT score don’t really match with the grades. Was there grade inflation at his HS? Being 1/2 AA should help at some private schools. Prob would have a good shot at UCSC, UCI, UCSB, UCD. For privates: Loyola Marymount University or Santa Clara University or Occidental?</p>

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<p>Hi YoHo, </p>

<p>He has taken the SAT three times and I don’t understand myself how he has not improved, but he might not be the best test taker and he did not do a class like he probably should. </p>

<p>I don’t know what grade inflation is? I wrote down his A grades but they are all 90 - 100.</p>

<p>When I redid the UC GPA calculator to remove the extra honors classes that are not considered UC approved, he is now a UC GPA of 4.05.</p>

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<p>I just wanted to update this thread. My son moved to California before he turned 18 and he graduated from a California HS. This week he started as a freshman at UC Davis as a Chemical Engineer major. He qualified for the Cal Grant and other grants and financial aid. He was considered a California resident for purposes of tuition because I have been a resident for the past 4+ years. He is very happy with his decision even though I worried about changing schools in his senior year. He made many friends and graduated with straight A’s his entire 12th grade year while maintaining rigor. He even took an on-site music class at a local community college to satisfy the A-G arts requirement while in his last semester of HS.</p>

<p>He applied and was accepted as a Chemical Engineering major at UCR, CPP, SJSU, CSULB and UCD. He was accepted off the waitlist for Undeclared at UCI. He did not get into ChemE at UCSB or Materials Engineering at SLO. </p>

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<p>Thanks for the update. Nice to see a good result. Good investigative work on your part, too.</p>

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<p>Congrats to your son.</p>

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<p>And he got a cal grant for going to a Calif high school for 3 quarters. Calif is insane. Giving free tuition from tax dollars to a student whose bio parents earn over $150k is insane. Glad I no longer pay taxes in Calif. </p>