Secret video of mids alleged

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<p>Critics say sponsor families are too cozy, permissive</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-te.md.ar.sponsors27oct27,0,1282346.story[/url]”>http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-te.md.ar.sponsors27oct27,0,1282346.story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Olsen makes it seem that there are problems generated by the program not individuals. It is like saying that because there are a few Employees of McDonalds doing bad things to the customers food that the McDonalds Corp. is full of Food related problems. (I use McD’s because of the various news reports of the above allegations happening over the last 40+ years of the organizations existence, no slight on McD’s). Shame on Olsen for this trash reporting.</p>

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<p>xchef, </p>

<p>I may be giving the general population too much credit, but I honestly believe when most people read something like this, or any other “newsworthy” event, teachers having sex with 8th graders etc. they have enough common sense to know that in any institution with a large population coming from many different walks of life, there will always be bad apples. Those people do not represent the actual character or integrity of the institution itself. Stuff like this resonates with those that already have an opinion and they are just looking for specific events to validate that opinion. People like that also have an amazing capacity to ignore the positive when it comes to how they feel things should be or really are.</p>

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<p>Accused had video of Naval Academy student, his girlfriend having sex</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-navy1029,0,2006505.story[/url]”>http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-navy1029,0,2006505.story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Another hit piece by Bradley Olsen. :mad:</p>

<p>So he writes an article about how “some critics think”, and then spends the rest of the article describing how appreciative the Midshipmen are.</p>

<p>Painting with a broad brush in the headline and opening paragraphs, though, eh?</p>

<p>MORE bad news about USNA from the same clown, based mostly on hearsay and some isolated incidents blown out of proportion, eh?</p>

<p>And you wonder why most of us take absolutely nothing this idiot says seriously? :mad:</p>

<p>Am I shooting the messenger again? :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>It’s easy to become jaded, the first time I was exposed to news coverage that I knew something about was in the early 80’s, I was at Hanscom AFB then home to ESD/Electronics System Division. I was at a Lab where a civilian employee was caught stealing supplies and materials, stupid stuff, plywood etc. To make matters worse he used a few of the guys under him to help him build a garage at home…on the governments time. </p>

<p>The news broke and the then ESD chief decides he should respond to the coverage from our military friendly Boston press over the pleas of his staff and my CO. He’s end up on the evening news. Do they let the general speak? Ask him any questions on camera that we can hear? No, as soon as the introductions are made and the “thank you for agreeing to speak to us general” comments are over they cut to a voice over about the billions of dollars under the control of ESD, as if linking the theft of plywood to appropriations for AWACS R&D makes any sense. You can see his lips moving in the background but the only words you are hearing are coming from the reporter doing the voice over. Gepeto couldn’t have done a better job… </p>

<p>Perhaps if I didn’t have first hand knowledge I would not have been very concerned about the piece or the level of manipulation that was going on. Technically they didn’t say anything inaccurate or incorrect, but through their approach to the subject they certainly made the listener think that the larceny involved much more than a few sheets of plywood. </p>

<p>At the same time we see “investigative reporting” can expose things that should not be happening. Walter Reed comes to mind as a recent example. So I think it would fair to say we shouldn’t go down the same path and paint the press with the same broad brush of generalities that some members of the press are so adept as using on subjects that we care about.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/10/navy_ronan_071028/[/url]”>http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/10/navy_ronan_071028/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Note that CDR Ronan was an “unofficial” sponsor of midshipmen NOT a sanctioned sponsor as alleged by Brad Olsen, Baltimore Sun, in his recent article.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-md.ar.ronan30oct30,0,5154622.story[/url]”>http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-md.ar.ronan30oct30,0,5154622.story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Navy doctor’s lawyer expected to question seizure of DVDs</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-ronan1030,0,7481654.story[/url]”>http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-ronan1030,0,7481654.story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Does it seem odd to anyone else that he’d opt to watch “Lectures” on a Saturday night?</p>

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<p>We don’t have the true story here and probably never will. It would probably be too bizzare to believe anyway.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/10/navy_ronan_071029/[/url]”>http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/10/navy_ronan_071029/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Pair of former midshipmen testify at court-martial of Navy doctor in sex videos case</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-md.ar.ronan31oct31,0,5613376.story[/url]”>http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-md.ar.ronan31oct31,0,5613376.story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Commander charged with conduct unbecoming an officer, illegal wiretapping, obstruction of justice</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-ronan1031,0,7547191.story[/url]”>http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-ronan1031,0,7547191.story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/10/navy_ronan_courtmartial_071031w/[/url]”>http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/10/navy_ronan_courtmartial_071031w/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>From reading various articles(I know I am stepping in it here) It appears the prosecution has some credibility issues here. I am not saying Cdr Ronan is innocent but “reasonable doubt” sure does enter in pretty heavily.
All I know about this stuff I saw on “JAG” :slight_smile:
Sea Lawyer Questions:::
Does a Courts Martial follow the same parameters of reasonable doubt as a civilian trial?
How do the members convict, or acquit? a majority or a Unanimous vote?</p>

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<p>Even if he isn’t sent to prison, he’s going to be penniless after the families of those videotaped get done with him, and without a medical license. What a pervert! I’m upset that he was even part of the brigade medical team!</p>

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<p>Yep. I think you’re right.</p>

<p>Too many wild snippets flying around. We’re gonna have to wait and see where the chips fall.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-md.ar.ronan01nov01,0,7055175.story[/url]”>http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-md.ar.ronan01nov01,0,7055175.story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>He’s charged with taping midshipmen engaged in sex acts</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-ronan1101,0,7350581.story[/url]”>http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-ronan1101,0,7350581.story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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