Senate bill 175 & house bill 52 – modification of the top 10% law.

<p>According to the Statesman as of 5/20 the House had not had time to vote on this issue. All issues have to be approved by June 1. Keep your fingers crossed, may not make it</p>

<p>I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t make it before June 1st but I am keeping my fingers crossed!</p>

<p>Darn, I saw that this thread was updated and hoped they had voted! Someone posted this and I’ve been checking daily. Those bozos… the governor should keep them there until they finish all their work… that’s what ‘real’ working people do!</p>

<p>[Texas</a> Legislature Online - 81(R) History for HB 52](<a href=“http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=81R&Bill=HB52]Texas”>Texas Legislature Online - 81(R) History for HB 52)</p>

<p>Here’s some news: [statesman.com</a> | House debates top 10 percent admission law | Postcards](<a href=“http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2009/05/21/house_debates_top_10_percent_a.html#comments]statesman.com”>http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2009/05/21/house_debates_top_10_percent_a.html#comments)</p>

<p>Here’s what the Ft. Worth Star telegram reported in this morning’s paper…interestingly enough, I also looked up what the Austin paper had to say and they eluded to the fact that the computer breakdown might not have been true…at least for my D, there’s hope…</p>

<p>[House</a> retools Top 10 rule for state universities | Top Stories | Star-Telegram.com](<a href=“http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1390233.html]House”>http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1390233.html)</p>

<p>So, the 8% cap amendment was approved - do you think 60% cap will survive the House today?</p>

<p>Without the 60% cap, they are not solving the problem, just delaying the problem.</p>

<p>Help, I’m confused. This was a different bill from HB 52? I didn’t even know about this one. So UT will auto-admit the top 8%, but if HB52 passes they will only auto-admit up to 60% of their incoming freshman class? Do I understand correctly??</p>

<p>Oh, maybe I am the one who is confused. Sorry. I thought from the newspaper article that they had revised it to be a top 8% of the graduating high school class rule instead of a 60% of the incoming college class rule, but maybe I hadn’t had enough coffee yet when I read it. Let’s hope they pass something soon. Then we can see what exactly they have agreed on.</p>

<p>I think you are correct MWMOM…but who knows…this is all so confusing! If anyone here can make heads or tails out it, let us know LOL</p>

<p>Legislators ARE real working people, who are legislating on the side for minimum wage. It’s not something to mock.</p>

<p>If the governor wants to “keep them til they finish their work,” then they need to change the Texas constitution to make the legislature full-time. Otherwise it’s not going to be possible to be a state legislator and feed a family.</p>

<p>And the 60% should be repealed in the next session because the number of grads is decreasing, not increasing. This is just going to hurt those kids who have worked hard in high school but don’t happen to go to Plano or Sugar Land schools.</p>

<p>I may have added to the confusion - sorry. But it looks like the House has amended the Senate Bill 175 to change the rule to 8%. See Reading H2, number 16, yesterday:</p>

<p>[Texas</a> Legislature Online - 81(R) Amendments for SB 175](<a href=“TLO”>Texas Legislature Online - 81(R) Amendments for SB 175)</p>

<p>Thanks to AllThisIsNewToMe for the link…</p>

<p>Yes, that link is great, but I am seeing 50% used in the House Committee report amended from 60%. This confuses me also, but I really didn’t think this bill stood a chance in the House. Now I’m starting to hope!</p>

<p>I don’t understand theloneranger’s comment, but it’s kids at the awesome high schools who ARE hurt by the top 10% rule. My son is around 15% at his Sugar Land high school. His ACT/SAT are in the 98 & 95 percentiles, but he can’t get into UT currently due to his rank. He takes 4-5 honors/AP courses each year. He also plays club & high school sports. A kid at a lesser school in the same district coasting by in lower level classes would be Valedictorian with my son’s GPA. He won’t be NEARLY as ready for college, but hey, he’ll be accepted into UT over my son. I guess lone ranger thinks that is fair…I disagree.</p>

<p>And they have added a line to the law to say that if UT rejects anyone, it may not say that they are being rejected because of the legislation we are currently discussing.<br>

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<p>(Sorry, but this is kind of funny.)</p>

<p>This would be HUGE for UT. All they need to be a top 5-10 public university is a lower acceptance rate and stronger overall student body. It has all the resources in the world, good professors, highly ranked depts., etc. However, doing a match system where students list their top 5 colleges is dumb. UT is the only legitimate public university in the state of Texas, with A&M a bit below it. But are any top 10% kids wanting to go to any other public school in Texas? Of course not. Compared to states like California, and even Virginia and Michigan, Texas public schools are not great. A kid in top 10% in California would be happy to go to UC-San Diego, or UC-Santa Barbara because they are top 10 public university. No one in Texas will go to Tech, UTD, UTSA, UTEP, UT Tyler, Texas State, U of H, etc. if they are in the top 10%, because they are not high quality universities. Once UT gets rid of the bottom 25% of their class that drags them down, they will be free to become a better university.</p>

<p>there is a reason why NY and CAL have some of the best schools in the country…</p>

<p>and that’s because they are liberal states…if schools in texas received better funding…</p>

<p>resurgambell, i’m not 100% sure on the statistic, but i’m pretty sure UT gets more state funding than the best schools in california do.</p>

<p>for example, UCLA only receives about 18% of its funding from the state, last i checked.</p>

<p>No, UT does not get very much state funding at all. Since tuition was deregulated, the Lege thinks that UT doesn’t need money. Hopefully with the cap on tuition increases this will change.</p>

<p>ResurgamBell, I don’t know who you’ve been talking to, but NY has terrible public schools. When SUNY Binghamton is the flagship school in your system, you’re in trouble.</p>

<p>This bill is going to hurt UT’s diversity and is going to result in more and more Stepford clones from suburbs like Plano overrunning the school.</p>

<p>SUNY is the equivalent of the UT system…</p>

<p>Austin is our Binghamton… </p>

<p>NY funds several colleges within Cornell University (one of which I attend)…</p>