<p>It's all relative. There are no universal morals in my mind. That is not to say that killing someone is fine though.</p>
<p>I don't drink because I enjoy my current state of consciousness.</p>
<p>^ what a child. that statement is ridiculous if done in moderation drinking does not cause you to pass out all of a sudden.</p>
<p>I'm not pressuring you to drink. You're reason is just moronic.</p>
<p>Hell I don't even drink and that statement still ****es me off</p>
<p>"I don't drink because I enjoy my current state of consciousness."</p>
<p>I actually agree with this statement. I don't make a habit of drinking, primarily because any drinking DOES cause impairment of the senses, and kills brain cells as well.</p>
<p>I don't have enough brain cells as is, and I like being in control.</p>
<p>"I'm not pressuring you to drink. You're[sic] reason is just moronic."</p>
<p>Well, frankly, that's not what nomir_dva was saying. He was just saying that he liked to be completely aware.</p>
<p>I don't drink (and never have/probably never will) for personal and health reasons. Although I'm not religious and don't necessarily have moral opposition to drinking, I don't see any benefits to it. Also, I think alcohol is very unhealthy, especially in excess. </p>
<p>It seems that I'm in the minority, as most people at Duke tend to drink moderately to heavily.</p>
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<p>I like that reason.</p>
<p>i didn't have my first sip of alcohol until about 2 months ago. it never appealed to me, but i had a couple sips and did not like the taste. since then, i've tried a few other drinks, and none of them tasted good to me. i dunno, i'm a very picky eater/drinker, so it's kinda inevitable that i wouldn't like alcoholic beverages.</p>
<p>i've found friends who don't drink and when we chill with others who do, we spend that time laughing at the inane things they say and do when they are drunk. getting tipsy is one thing, but a lot of people don't know how to handle it, and they do not realize how stupid and unattractive they are in that state.</p>
<p>"^ what a child."</p>
<p>either you mistook their statement or your just closed minded to others views.but that statement certainlt wasn't very called for. everythings fine in moderation, however i do agree with them, that i'd much rather be in my fully present state of mind then to be tipsy.</p>
<p>dukeclassof09- Just wondering, are you in Brown? I'm in Alspaugh, and the drinking here is, um, a bit lively.</p>
<p>Anyway, nomir's statement was kind of silly. Having a glass or two of wine (which, granted, does not occur in colleges) every now and again is actually healthy for you. </p>
<p>Furthermore, the only thing the Greeks (and sometimes the Romans) drank was diluted alcohol, and look at their achievements! ;)</p>
<p>And just for the record for those of you who haven't taken logic, morality is unversal and has nothing whatsoever to do with human law. Ethics (which does deal with law) is not universal, and it is in this area that underage drinking falls, not morality.</p>
<p>colinp, you seem to really emphasize your disability a lot. I've read about your disability on about 5 different threads.</p>
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<p>I'm not pressuring you to drink. You're reason is just moronic.</p>
<p>Hell I don't even drink and that statement still ****es me off
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<p>I said nothing about passing out. Alcohol changes my perception of reality, and I don't particularly like the effect - how is that moronic? </p>
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<p>At the very least, it is probably not unhealthy, but then, I never claimed that I avoided alcohol for health reasons. I have no qualms about drinking a glass of wine, as that would not have any discernable effect at all. But most college-age students drink to 'have fun' or to improve social interactions, and I don't like the idea of interacting with people when neither I nor they are 'ourselves.'</p>
<p>"dukeclassof09- Just wondering, are you in Brown? I'm in Alspaugh, and the drinking here is, um, a bit lively."</p>
<p>No, but I almost requested Brown. I decided against it because I wanted a single and didn't really care which dorm I got. Since we apparently aren't allowed to request singles next year, I will probably apply for the substance-free section on West.</p>
<p>I know its hard not to drink, but im a high school senior and i have never had a drop in my life. At the same time every friend i have drinks on the weekends. You just gotta stick to your personal values and allow others to do what they want to do.</p>
<p>Why is it that so many people are extreme in either direction? I think it's fine to do what you want for personal reasons. I wouldn't like to drink until I'm sick- it's not fun at all. Also, I believe being zealously against alcohol and people who drink is narrow-minded, especially if you haven't tried alcohol. The worst thing you can do is to judge people or act self-righteous because nobody likes that. Personally, I value moderation in all things - I drink some weekends to get tipsy, but that's it - it's a personal choice though, and I try not to judge people who don't drink or people who drink more than me.</p>
<p>I don't drink. I find something that takes control of myself out of my hands highly suspicious and dangerous. I'd much rather stay in my right state of mind and drink soda.</p>
<p>I don't drink at school. I'm a freshman at the University of NH, which is a school that consistently makes the party school list. But I have no desire to drink. I've never seen the purpose behind it. So I don't do it, at school. That being said, I'm Italian. I have had SMALL amounts of wine at my dad's house, occasionally. When I say small, it's more of a tasting thing than anything else. I really don't drink. I'm 19 now. My 21st birthday will fall on a Friday or Saturday night. I'm already making plans to be off campus that weekend, so that I don't have to deal with people pressuring me to drink. Most of my friends will still be 20 at that time, but obviously that doesn't usually matter much.
Most of my friends here don't drink at all, or don't drink much. It's been perfectly accepted by all of them that I don't drink. We find plenty to do on weekends, from going to see movies at the student union building to hockey and football games. There are socials every weekend in the dorm, plus campuswide alcohol free events. I've been here for a semester and have yet to set foot in any parties. It also helps that I live in the honors dorm. There are kids that drink. I wont deny that. But it's not nearly as widespread as some of the dorms, and for some reason the kids here that do drink don't behave <em>as</em> immaturely when drunk as the ones in the freshmen dorms do.</p>
<p>Soda makes you fat. And more people die from health complications from obesity than from alcohol poisoning/drunk driving.</p>
<p>BAM</p>
<p>fun fact: Donald Trump has never smoked or drank. I guess he's become mildy successful.</p>
<p>Fun Fact: Bill Gates dropped acid as a kid. I guess he's become mildly successful.</p>
<p>Your point?</p>
<p>i'm getting TANKED this weekend. ever heard of a beer bong?</p>