<p>well, Snape did take the unbreakable vow.
Malfoy couldn't finish the job, so he had to step in.
might as well rejoin the Death Eaters now.</p>
<p>I do believe that Snape's evil, but there's some hope for Malfoy.</p>
<p>I know it's been mentioned, but what about the unbreakable vow? Do you think Dumbledore approved this since the end of book 5? What if Snape had to obey the vow earlier & Dumbledore wasn't able to spread his wisdom to Harry? </p>
<p>I am as hopeful as you all are that Snape is good, but I think it may be wishful thinking.</p>
<p>whoa! u guys sure can analyse man.... i really really hope snape is gd, not because i like him, but i cant bear to think dat DD cud have been wrong in his judgement abt snape.... :eek:</p>
<p>All these theories on Snape's apparent goodness are very interestingand I agree that Snape's evil-turning leaves a lot of questions and some fishy thingsbut if all this is done so that Snape will become closer to Voldemort and able to spy on him, it begs the question: to whom is Snape now to report his information? Nobody in the Order will ever trust him again: many would kill him if they saw him now. And though Dumbledore was wise and magnanimous and willing to give people a second chance, who else would?</p>
<p>I totally agree with the idea that Snape is good. I really, really want him to be and it makes sense. As for who he will report to, perhaps he doesn't need to report to anyone! Maybe if he can gain Voldemort's trust, he will be able to stop him from doing something that will ruin everything and be able to protect Harry or something.</p>
<p>he is EVIL</p>
<p>kitkattail: I don't think he'd necessarily report to anyone; he'd be deep undercover, and he'd pretty much have to do it by himself. The only issue I can think of is what his motivation for doing it would be. One possibility is a personal grudge against Voldemort. From what we've seen of Snape, we know that he has a lot of pride (really, his ego is the size of England). It's possible that he joined Voldemort after being promised power, only to realize that the Death Eaters are really not much more than glorified slaves. We know that he's prone to holding grudges; it's possible that he's dead set on killing Voldemort as a result of what he perceives as a personal slight. That would be the death of Snape-the-brave-and-moral-character, but it's one possibility.</p>
<p>This is a bit off topic, but I have a question:</p>
<p>If everyone was mourning over Dumbledore's death and the terrible chain of events, why couldn't someone use the timeturner thing that was used in HP 3?</p>
<p>if i remember correctly, the ministry's whole stock of timeturners was destroyed in the 6th book sumhow. either way, timeturning a tricky business, it adds way too many weird possibilities. i doubt JK rowling will use them again in the remaining book.</p>
<p>I believe Snape is good. But I have always been a big Snape fan, since PoA really. </p>
<p>The BEST evidence we have for Snape's somewhat-goodness (I hesistate to say that he's all good--he invented Sectumsempra at 16, remember) is that Bellatrix Black, the zealot if there ever was one, does NOT TRUST him. Her doubt in his faith and credibility really means something significant.</p>
<p>I can buy the theory mentioned earlier that Snape had a thing for Lily. But, I think Snape is currently in love with Narcissa. Did anyone else notice how nice he was to Narcissa? I don't mean just the unbreakable vow, but his attitude towards her in general, which was very unsnapelike. When she showed up at his front door, he seemed genuinely happy to see her, and I don't think Snape's ever happy to see anyone. </p>
<p>Anyway, I don't think he is inherently evil, because I don't think Dumbledore could be so blind. I think Dumbledore trusts him with good reason, and the reason he didn't appoint him to the DoDA post 'til book six is... well, I think of it this way: If your boyfriend (or girlfriend) cheated on you, and you chose to forgive him, over time he would earn your trust back. But there is no way in hell you would leave him alone with the girl he cheated on you with. Even if you're sure nothing would happen, the thought of the two of them together really ****es you off.</p>
<p>SSV,</p>
<p>haha. great analogy. i think snape's loyal to dumbledore, or i guess now the good side. i just never got the feeling that he really wanted to go back to the dark side. i mean he's mean and rude and all, but he seems more mature than to just want sheer power and evil. and dumbledore probably told snape similar things about voldemort that he told harry...like voldemort not wanting friends and just using people. so snape would know theres no point in going back to the dark side. snape's undestandibly a prick, but he's not evil.</p>
<p>How come prick can make it past the censors, but a synonym of "to urinate" can't? <em>mock outrage</em></p>
<p>Snape is one of my favorites, and I'm hoping he turns out on the good side...</p>
<p>Dumbledore clearly didn't value his own life a great deal. Before they went to the cave, he kept making Harry promise to do whatever he said, even if it caused Dumbledore's death. Snape's position as an "undercover" Death Eater is paramount to the Order, and I believe Dumbledore had arranged a sort of agreement with Severus beforehand.</p>
<p>I actually thought Snape's disgust was toward Malfoy, because he couldn't finish the job. And why would he make an Unbreakable Vow..something as serious as that .. over something trivial, like Malfoy's life in turn for Dumbledore's? I don't think he's helped at all if he is good and there's some plan, Voldemort feared DD, now Snape put the whole Order in a much weaker stance .. I don't see how killing Dumbledore could possibly help the Order.</p>
<p>well if snape isnt evil, then he made the unbreakable vow b/c he had no choice. it showed his "loyalty" to mrs malfoy in protecting the one whom voldemort had given an important task. if he didnt vow to help malfoy, it would have seemed he wasn't helping voldemort. and he killed dumbledore b/c DD asked him to through occlumency (sp?). at least now the OofP still has an "insider". or at least i hope they do.</p>