Sexual Assault on Campus: What’s the Policy at YOUR Alma Mater?

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<p>At Wellesley, they state that such things are Honor Code violations, and as such will be dealt with on the internal level by the Honor Court, independently of any external legal proceedings. They make it quite clear that one is not supposed to take the place of the other. I think that lookingforward’s post #20 explains the reason for this well: there are all kinds of offenses that a school may define as violations that have no external legal penalty, but nevertheless must be dealt with to maintain a campus community with a focus on education.</p>

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<p>I understand that principal, but the word should appear somewhere, on some page, or you wonder if the institution has a denial problem. Yale has largely renamed rape into “nonconsensual sex” which I do find nefarious.</p>

<p>On WVU’s page, there is a link called “rape myths and facts” and “what can I do in acquaintance rape prevention”. Wustl (my alma mater) also has “rape myths and facts” on it’s sexual assault page. Both schools have instructions that include calling police, listing hospitals with special services for victims, and how to preserve evidence. </p>

<p>Yale, also my alma mater, has a problem. Looking around at the earlier link and on their SHARE page, there is nowhere, nowhere, a link that explains “what to do if you are sexually assaulted”. How difficult should that be? The other two schools have done it, and MUCH more easily. </p>

<p>I’m not saying that it’s necessarily worse there than at any other school, but the institution is still circling their wagons more than they are trying to face the problem and help victims. That’s how it looks to me anyway. Harvard has faced it’s gender problems in the Business School (there’s a whole thread on that) but Yale hasn’t truly faced this problem yet.</p>

<p>" “what can I do in acquaintance rape prevention”."</p>

<p>There is no such thing as “acquaintance rape”. virtually all rapes are among acquaintances. It is either rape or it is not.</p>

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<p>I don’t have a problem with administrators dealing with honor code violations related to academics, I have no problem with a college stipulating lists of violations and the punitive consequences for violators. I don’t even have a problem if in the honor code they say they have punitive actions for students found guilty of victimless crimes (underage drinking, drugs etc.) All this seems fairly clear and straightforward. Clearly, I have a problem when administration crosses the line and attempts to adjudicate criminal activities in the absence of a co-existing legal action. </p>

<p>And I’m not at all convinced that we needed to attach all this to a Federal Education Act dealing with discrimination. If you are the victim of a crime you are not being discriminated against, anyone can be a victim of a crime and you have the full force of the legal system. Anyone can press charges, there is no discrimination. </p>

<p>If you don’t know if you are a victim of a crime, then yes, you need counseling in the broad sense of the word to determine what you, as the victim, needs to do and colleges can certainly provide that be it legal counseling, emotional counseling etc. in a non-discriminatory manner.</p>

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<p>Yes.</p>

<p>mini- I’m glad they’re calling it acquaintance rape. Yes, it’s rape, but in my day it seems that the only rape that people considered criminal was “stranger rape”. Since then other forms of rape have been taken more seriously - marital rape, date/acquaintance rape, and male rape included.</p>

<p>Yale clearly doesn’t sweep it under “nonconsensual sex.”<br>
Sexual misconduct incorporates a range of behaviors including rape, sexual assault (which includes any kind of non-consensual sexual contact), sexual harassment, intimate partner violence, stalking, and any other conduct of a sexual nature that is non-consensual, or has the purpose or effect of threatening or intimidating a person or persons… It goes on, from there. It’s online.
[UWC</a> Procedures | Office of the Provost](<a href=“http://provost.yale.edu/uwc/procedures]UWC”>http://provost.yale.edu/uwc/procedures)</p>

<p>Yale encourages victims of sexual misconduct to contact the SHARE Center and the Yale or New Haven Police Departments in addition to seeking assistance from the UWC. The SHARE Center provides counseling and information to survivors of sexual violence and to those who have experienced other forms of sexual misconduct. SHARE counselors can guide and support individuals bringing complaints to the UWC."</p>

<p>Most states have multiple degrees of criminal sexual conduct that are fairly well defined. </p>

<p>UofM does a nice job of summarizing the degrees of criminal sexual conduct as they pertain in Michigan:</p>

<p>[Defining</a> Sexual Assault | Sexual Assault Prevention and Awareness Center](<a href=“http://sapac.umich.edu/article/189]Defining”>http://sapac.umich.edu/article/189)</p>

<p>Looking around at the earlier link and on their SHARE page, there is nowhere, nowhere, a link that explains “what to do if you are sexually assaulted”.</p>

<p>I’m not keen on making this all hard to find. But here it is, from the SHARE pages:
[Strategies</a> for Managing a Crisis: Sexual Assault | Sexual Harassment and Assault Response & Education (SHARE)](<a href=“http://sharecenter.yale.edu/care/sexual-assault#afterwards]Strategies”>http://sharecenter.yale.edu/care/sexual-assault#afterwards)</p>

<p>"mini- I’m glad they’re calling it acquaintance rape. Yes, it’s rape, but in my day it seems that the only rape that people considered criminal was “stranger rape”. </p>

<p>So called “stranger rape” is rare. And the reality is that what the college/university might be calling “acquaintance rape” may simply mean that the victim met the rapist (who is usually a serial rapist) on campus that same evening. To call it “acquaintance rape” is demeaning to the victim. Supposing someone - a non-college student - went to a bar in town, talked to someone there, left, and was raped in his/her car by the person s/he met. Is that “acquaintance rape”?</p>

<p>Yes. Just because someone met the academic standards to be admitted to the same school as your daughter or mine and happens to be at the same party does not make him an acquaintance, which connotes a certain amount of affinity and relationship. </p>

<p>There is little reason to fear the schools that are taking action on this issue as long as you are not a rapist. Rapists are sex offenders. Like all sex offenders, they have patterns of repeat behavior. </p>

<p>I really don’t care what the stated policy is of my daughters college, though they are embroiled in a DOJ suit right now. I care only that she follows our family policy of going to the off campus town police before the school, and that she wait to go to the school until we have obtained legal representation for her. </p>

<p>They put the victims on trial at these schools. Best to have them know they are being watched.</p>

<p>lookingforward - that’s really interesting what you found (post 28). I went back and couldn’t find the same thing, but tried again and it takes a bit of digging. If you search “rape” on the main university site, the third link that comes up is the SHARE center. </p>

<p>From there you have to click on “getting care” (one of 18 options) and from there you have to click on “crisis situations” and then finally (finally!) “sexual assault”. I’m not terribly reassured by the process. Hopefully it works better in reality than it does online.</p>

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<p>Would calling 911 from anywhere inside campus provide access to local law enforcement, or would it divert it to campus police? I’m thinking the latter because it would probably actually be considered to be “local law enforcement”.</p>

<p>Call 911. Ask to be taken to the hospital. Get a rape kit done and ask the PA or nurse to get you the town and not the university police. </p>

<p>They will know why</p>

<p>I want to say that the policy at Yale is really deplorable, frankly, as it is in most places. </p>

<p>Vanderbilt is getting it right. They call local law enforcement themselves. </p>

<p>That should be the policy for all violent crime. Can you imagine Yale not taking murder to the local police? This is the issue with the words they use. Nonconsensual sex, acquaintance rape. </p>

<p>Sounds so innocuous. And they know this. Academics absolutely know the way language influences action and thought.</p>

<p>Nrdsb, I refer you to my post #7, which shows that the statement you quoted from the OP is false.</p>

<p>This has no immediate bearing on your question re dialing 911, but I don’t think it should be perpetuated.</p>

<p>I have to agree with you poet. I would guess the language IS innocuous or buried or not easily findable because when you cut to the chase this type of behavior IS criminal and the administrators at the college know this. TitleIX is about discrimination. TitleIX is not about adjudicating criminal behavior.</p>

<p>^^^^Well, I really wasn’t intending to “perpetuate” anything. My first response to the quoted post was that “all a student has to do is call 911, why are you making a point that the phone numbers to local authorities are not provided?” I was just thinking about being a student who has been raped, who has been warned against calling campus police; rather, she’s been encouraged to call “local police.” So she calls 911 thinking she is doing exactly that. So I was really asking the question if her efforts would be stonewalled by the 911 system recognizing it as a campus call and re-routing it to campus police.</p>

<p>I’m using the “she” pronoun, but of course a victim could certainly also be a male.</p>

<p>Sure, I understood your question. I would figure that in some cases, 911 would get the campus police because they ARE the local police. I remember people saying that about Penn State. (Whether they were correct or not is another matter.) At Yale, I would assume that 911 would get you the New Haven police. Possibly the campus police also, I don’t know. When I was at Wellesley, which has a self-contained campus, people said that the town police were not allowed to come onto the campus unless the college allowed them to. I don’t know how true that was, but we smoked pot with impunity in the dorms. :slight_smile: At Yale, some of the campus is self-contained, and some has city streets running through it, do I don’t know how that plays out.</p>

<p>Thank you all for taking the time to discuss this. To respond (albeit belatedly, for which I apologize) to a few of you:</p>

<p>**katara13<a href=“%5Burl=http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1552780-sexual-assault-campus-what-s-policy-your-alma-mater.html#post16371592]post%20#3[/url]”>/b</a>: No, actually, I’m not an activist. If I were, I wouldn’t have come here seeking advice.</p>

<p>**soccerguy15<a href=“%5Burl=http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1552780-sexual-assault-campus-what-s-policy-your-alma-mater.html#post16372076]post%20#5[/url]”>/b</a>: No, “911” isn’t necessarily the first number people learn in their lives. Many communities, until relatively recently, didn’t have 911 service. And for students raised elsewhere than in the United States . . . well, how would they know this???</p>

<p>**Consolation<a href=“posts%20%5Burl=http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1552780-sexual-assault-campus-what-s-policy-your-alma-mater.html#post16372153]#7[/url]%20and%20[url=http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1552780-sexual-assault-campus-what-s-policy-your-alma-mater.html#post16374105]#34[/url]”>/b</a>: I appreciate your efforts to be polite, but would also appreciate your actually reading my original post (not hard to find - [top</a> of the page](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1552780-sexual-assault-campus-what-s-policy-your-alma-mater.html#post16370102]top”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1552780-sexual-assault-campus-what-s-policy-your-alma-mater.html#post16370102)), before accusing me of demonstrable falsehood. I will repeat: My alma mater’s “response to sexual assault” website does not provide contact info for local law enforcement. (Perhaps Yale’s website does provide such information. I’ve never attended Yale.)</p>

<p>**lookingforward<a href=“post%20#15”>/b</a>: You say you found wording on several college websites "encouraging complainants to call law enforcement.” Yale and Amherst have all but been beaten to death here (or in previous threads), but if you could provide the wording you found for Vassar, Swat, and Occidental (or even just the links), I’d appreciate seeing it.</p>

<p>To all who’ve responded - Yes, you’re right, it was ignorant and shortsighted of me to attempt to discourage my friend from considering Yale for her daughter. She and her daughter would have been better served by being advised to say away from:</p>

<p>(1) all historically men’s colleges,
(2) all historically women’s colleges, and
(3) all historically coed colleges.</p>

<p>The problem is widespread and the only immediate solution is to teach both our daughters and our sons to avoid knowingly ever having sex when they (or their partner) is heavily intoxicated, and to avoid drinking themselves into such a stupor that they might be unaware of what they (or their partner) is doing.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, regardless of what Yale’s policies might or might not be, the policies at my own alma mater are inadequate, and I’d like to see them improved. The language from Williams (posted by both mini and Consolation above) seems like it says what it should say. If any of you have other examples of colleges that are handling this (you believe) correctly, I’d appreciate your posting the links.</p>

<p>**Nrdsb4<a href=“posts%20%5Burl=http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1552780-sexual-assault-campus-what-s-policy-your-alma-mater.html#post16374007%5D#32%5B/url%5D%20and%20%5Burl=http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1552780-sexual-assault-campus-what-s-policy-your-alma-mater.html#post16374160%5D#36%5B/url%5D”>/b</a>: Good question! But I’d guess that so long as students use their cell phones, they’d reach the state (or municipal) dispatch for emergency services. If they used a campus phone, they’d more likely reach the campus police.</p>

<p>I’m dismayed this thread didn’t die. At least most of the posters have gotten by the sly Yale-bashing undercurrent from mini and dodgersmom. But given that the thread continues I’ll offer some thoughts for the non-activist parents.</p>

<p>This thread is full of misinformation. A few are simply playing tag team here (not the first time either). They drop little bombs like suggesting certain named schools are “covering up” rape or that certain colleges fail to grasp that definition of rape. They don’t realize the harm they’re doing by spreading misinformation. </p>

<p>It’s unfortunate this thread wasn’t titled, “Should a College’s approach to sexual assault, and in particular their policies, enter into your College application process, and if so, how and why?” Sexual assault at college is at epidemic levels. IMHO it’s perhaps the single biggest social issue at college, far outweighing even the cost of college. If a school still maintains an “against your will” standard in their policy rather than a “consent” standard, they’re in the dark ages. And if a college hasn’t changed their assault policies in the last 12 months to encourage reporting and to provide safety for the victims then they’re probably still encouraging a rape culture. They’re also likely not complying with Title IX and probably not encouraging victims to seek help. </p>

<p>But don’t listen to anyone intimating that Yale or Amherst, or any other school that is actively addressing the issue, is more dangerous to women than any other school. They’re far safer. A west coast LAC with a particularly strong activist community last semester received nearly 60 sexual assaults complaints over a 3 month period, up from an average of 2 per quarter in prior years. That’s a 3,100% increase in assaults. Does that mean this LAC suddenly, overnight, became a very dangerous place for women? No. They likely became a little bit safer because the activists are raising awareness.</p>

<p>Yale has also faced an increase in reported assaults, although I doubt it matches the west coast LAC. But Yale has been far more active in publishing meaningful reports that detail the assaults at their school. Last week they also published guidance on how to interpret the reports, including guidance on what constitutes non-consensual sex. If mini really believes that all non-consensual sex is rape, perhaps she can tell us why in her opinion Yale’s guidance is all wrong. I’m guessing that mini also hasn’t considered that the 50 U.S. states have nearly 50 different definitions of rape. It’s not nearly as simple as mini would suggest.</p>

<p>But what else can be done? The issue disproportionately affects freshman females during the first two weeks of school, so despite all of the inane rhetoric about victim-blaming, please, please, please inform your daughters about the steps they can take to avoid situations where rapists will attack (alcohol-infused parties where your daughter doesn’t have a friend watching out for her). My daughter fortunately avoided a close brush with assault because we had those conversations. And I also had many, many, many (far too many to count) discussions with my son about consent, respect for women, and respect for choice.</p>

<p>dodgersmom, you don’t seem to appreciate or understand the issue but your defiance certainly comes through. Telling people that Yale and Amherst are “covering up” matters is not really seeking advice; it’s deceptively giving it. It’s spin, and it’s not remotely accurate. It’s similar to the deceptive advice you gave your friend (assuming your story has any credibility, which I question). It’s simply poor advice. And if you focus on intoxication (as you did in your last post) without addressing consent, you’re simply missing the point.</p>