Should a school provide an Ipad to every student?

<p>Our superintendent is requesting that every jr/sr high student be provided with an Ipad, that every K-12 teacher be provided with an Ipad, and that every 7-12 teacher receive a new Macbook. Every teacher is currently provided with a laptop.</p>

<p>Do you think this is a good idea? I know some schools have done this, but I wonder how beneficial the Ipads are. To me, an Ipad is a cool toy, but it is a toy. There is the initial taxpayer cost of this, the maintenance, and the issues of breakage. Equally or more important to me is the time wasted. D is in a computer based (no text) history class this year. It has been horrible. The teacher doesn't teach.</p>

<p>Our school is very small (<800 in K-12), rural, and non-competitive. 55% of our students attending college require remedial classes. I have seen with my own kids how much time they are allowed to sit around and waste on Ipods, "free" time on computers, texting, etc. I feel that problem will only worsen, and there will be even less teaching than currently occurs.</p>

<p>Has your school done this? How has it gone? Do you think the advantage of some beneficial apps outweighs the expense and "playing around"?</p>

<p>Are there any studies demonstrating that early childhood education mediated by use of a tablet computer (vs. a regular computer) leads to superior outcomes?</p>

<p>Or do certain teachers just want a trendy iPad to take home and use at taxpayer expense?</p>

<p>Then again, 7 year olds really do need to check their facebook accounts more frequently to see what the other 7 year olds are doing and where their peers have wound up since nursery school.</p>

<p>No - the schools shouldn’t be squandering the money on things like iPads - they should either reduce their budgets altogether or hire more teachers, have smaller class sizes, teach more subjects. </p>

<p>It sounds like someone there thought it’d be a quick fix for their issues but it won’t be - it’ll just be another means for the kids to waste time, to sell and claim it was stolen, to actually be stolen, etc.</p>

<p>With the technology some teachers don’t use them to complement the teaching - they use them as a substitute and the teacher quits teaching and becomes just a director - not what a teacher is supposed to be.</p>

<p>If they ‘are’ to hand out some kind of technology like this in an effort to magically make all the kids technologically proficient then they should at least use something less expensive than an iPad with is more expensive than necessary and not even ideal for the purpose - a netbook would be a better choice but an even better choice would be to have some computers available in a library setting or that can maybe even be ‘checked out’ to those who don’t have access to one but they’ll probably receive a lot of abuse (going to inappropriate websites, just being used for facebook, email, games, etc.).</p>

<p>We are in the first year of an iPad program. It’s not going real well, in our opinion. My son believes laptops would have been better, as having a keyboard would help with papers. Teachers seem to be looking for ways to use utilize the iPads, so there are still books in the backpacks. The biggest problem, in my opinion, has been theft. Of course, my son had his stolen the day he received it. He knows of others who have had theirs stolen, too. I do believe that things will eventually get better with time. There was another thread of this subject, which gave me hope. I’ll try to post a link.</p>

<p>Here it is:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1302205-laptops-every-hs-student.html?highlight=ipads[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1302205-laptops-every-hs-student.html?highlight=ipads&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Considering that I’ve yet to come up with a college that requires a frigging computer, (yes, I know there are some), no, I don’t agree. You need wifi to get on the internet with the thing, and so what is the kid to do at home with it? You need the keyboard to write papers, so it isn’t useful that way. I think a cell phone is more the necessity these days, but who wants to pay the bill for use of those?</p>

<p>My local school district is large and not as rich so they have decided to provide a $300 netbook to every 7th and 8th grader next year with the goal of eventually providing one to all students grades 7-12. Part of the reason schools are doing this is because there is a federal technology grant that may cover a large part of the cost. I am only for this plan if it also includes extensive training for teachers so that they may take advantage of the potential of technology and prevent the computers from becoming distracting toys for students.</p>

<p>My thoughts immediately went to a technology grant. Still, it seems like a crazy priority for a struggling school district.</p>

<p>^^^Our local school district (small town, mixed income) seems to do very well with tech grants for smart boards, etc. All teachers will be getting Ipads next fall. The teachers I know who are working with autistic students, some nonverbal, are finding the Ipads very useful.</p>

<p>Thank you for all the responses thus far. They are helpful. I believe this will <em>not</em> be funded through a technology grant, but paid from the school’s fund. We are a rust-belt state and area with few jobs and high unemployment.</p>

<p>I can definitely see some advantages for specific uses with specific students, as in the example of autistic students. I am much less sure of providing them for every student, and especially in doing so with Ipads, when it seems a regular laptop, with keyboard, would provide more benefits.</p>

<p>Wifi at home is a problem. Our internet choices are very few and speeds are very slow.</p>

<p>If the remedial students have learning challenges, I can see an iPad being very instrumental in facilitating education.
I have elements of dyslexia, and using a keyboard seems to help me access a different part of my brain when writing making it much easier to write a paper, than by hand or even on a typewriter ( since you don’t have a screen on a typewriter).
I also have very poor handwriting, and it is a huge help to be able to read my notes rather than try and figure out what they say.
Another way e-text is preferable to hard copy is the ability to immediately look up the meaning of a word or phrase. If I had to stop every time I didn’t know something to find a dictionary or atlas, I’m sure I either would skip it, or get otherwise distracted. By being able to just highlight a word for the meaning, I am able to continue studying, which adds to comprehension.</p>

<p>It’s one thing to have these things available AT SCHOOL for kids/teachers to use. It’s another to have them go home where they might get taken over or broken by family members who want to play with them.</p>

<p>It may seem odd, but there are situations like this. The student is given something for SCHOOL use, and the family members use/abuse it. There was a story where a student got her leftover Pell money from her CC and her StepDad insisted that she give him the money to buy cool rim tires for his car.</p>

<p>emeraldkitty – Points well taken. And have you ever used something like a voice recorder as a convenience over written notes? </p>

<p>Also, there are touch-screen computers (there’s a huge white Sony model I have in mind that looks like a giant white 22-inch iPad) with operations that can take the place of a traditional keyboard or a pen. Oddly, or not, these full-blown computers are faster and more versatile than iPads but cost the same. I expect when Windows 8 is released, these larger “tablets” might be more useful to students.</p>

<p>Not as trendy though. But hard to stash into a thieving pocket.</p>

<p>If they can put all the textbooks on that IPad and the required readings…that would be GREAT. I wish this option had been available when my daughter entered middle school. She was so small that we had a doctor’s note requesting a second set of ALL textbooks for her to keep at home. She was simply too small to haul (and I mean haul) that excess weight in books back and forth to school. The school was very accommodating but my guess is the books over two years cost more than the cost of an IPad.</p>

<p>I have used a voice recorder to record lectures, so that I don’t miss the big picture instead of trying to get details that may be meaningless without it.</p>

<p>That doesn’t work in all situations though, also, some students with disabilities, may also qualify for a note taker, which might be used more often at the college level when the student is more comfortable advocating for themselves, rather than in K-12 where students want to fit in as much as possible.</p>

<p>My D qualified for a net book as part of her IEP, but she wouldn’t use it, because it made her appear different. Lending something like an iPad though to sped students may have enough of a “coolness” factor to overcome that.</p>

<p>Loss and theft is a big concern as is family members not respecting the responsibiity of caring for equipment. I know a few districts nationally have adopted laptops or other new technology for all, they may be good resources on how & whether to implement it.</p>

<p>A local district has been adopting new technology, but looks like mostly at the high school level.
[Shoreline</a> School District #412](<a href=“http://www.shorelineschools.org/departments/tech/laptop_info.php]Shoreline”>http://www.shorelineschools.org/departments/tech/laptop_info.php)</p>

<p>My D’s school with be starting a pilot program where every child will use one in 7th and 8th grade next year. Teachers have been using them this year and undergone extensive training. It was advised we buy a keyboard for writing papers and doing homework. I am not convinced an Ipad is better than a laptop, but do agree that knowing your way around a computer is important. My D’s school cited size (laptops obscuring views in classrooms) weight, cost and portability as a few of the reasons they went with an ipad vs the laptop. I am am sure there will be hiccups along the way and am interested in seeing how they are dealt with. </p>

<p>As for electronic textbooks, I am old school and like a hardcover. We are a 3 kindle household so I am very familar with ebooks, I guess I would have to get up to speed to highlighting and making notations in an e-textbook. My D will probably have less difficulty with that than I. When my S was in middle and HS I bought extra copies of his textbooks to leave at home so he did not have to lug them back and forth. Cheap textbooks are available for most books, except the latest greatest version.</p>

<p>I was the OP of the other thread about 1:1 laptops. I did quite a bit of research and found very little studies that showed increased test scores or productivity in students that had technology such as iPads or laptops for in-school use. Instead, it creates distracted students that do not know how to work without those toys. </p>

<p>In this remarkable book, [Amazon.com:</a> The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains (9780393072228): Nicholas Carr: Books](<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/The-Shallows-Internet-Doing-Brains/dp/0393072223]Amazon.com:”>http://www.amazon.com/The-Shallows-Internet-Doing-Brains/dp/0393072223) the author talks about how we learn to think and write differently when we constantly use computers. </p>

<p>This article directly comments on iPad purchases, [Answering</a> the Big Question on New Technology in Schools: Does It Work? (Part 1) | Larry Cuban on School Reform and Classroom Practice](<a href=“http://larrycuban.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2012/03/10/answering-the-big-question-on-new-technology-in-schools-does-it-work-part-1/]Answering”>Answering the Big Question on New Technology in Schools: Does It Work? (Part 1) | Larry Cuban on School Reform and Classroom Practice)

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<p>The “research pantry” was virtually empty when the first home computers were offered for sale…and schools started to use them as well. If nothing else, the advent of the word processing programs has changed the landscape of writing for many. Using the PC for research (or fun…ahem…we are all here…) has become part of our culture, one that we would never have dreamed of when most of us were kids growing up.</p>

<p>I do realize that there isn’t much “evidence based research” to support these purchases today…but I also think this will come as more places begin to use this.</p>

<p>Just for the record…I do NOT think schools should be buying ANY kind of computer/Ipad or the like for kindergarten students…or even primary school students. BUT I do think all kids in the schools should have technology instruction so that they can use this to their advantage.</p>

<p>No…it’s not the “answer” to making sweeping changes in anything…but then…neither was the personal computer.</p>

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That’s part of the problem with these programs - the recipients are in a rush to spend the free-to-them windfall (otherwise known as my tax dollars) and waste money.</p>

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Even better would be to provide it on a $79 Kindle vs a $500 iPad. I agree that it’d be great to get rid of the weight of the paper books and in a Kindle form it could be less expensive than paper books as well.</p>

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Having an actual keyboard trumps any reason to buy an iPad for this purpose, a netbook is less expensive in the first place, and a laptop form factor doesn’t obscure views. </p>

<p>The bottom line in a lot of these cases - the administrators and teachers want iPads for themselves (they likely already have a laptop or desktop) and this is a way they can get them. Buying these iPads isn’t for the best interests of the students although I’ll admit some of these people making the purchase decision are just ignorant as opposed to greedy, don’t know much about the difference in the platforms, and haven’t bothered to research it and make a reasonable decision as to how they’re spending out money (not theirs - not the Fed’s - ours).</p>

<p>If you ask college kids what they would rather have, old-school hard books or books on readers, most will tell you that they prefer the hard books. [Students</a> Remain Reluctant to Try E-Textbooks, Survey Finds - Wired Campus - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/students-remain-reluctant-to-try-e-textbooks-survey-finds/27866]Students”>http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/students-remain-reluctant-to-try-e-textbooks-survey-finds/27866) and another one [College</a> study: E-books falling flat - Boulder Daily Camera](<a href=“College study: E-books falling flat – Boulder Daily Camera”>College study: E-books falling flat – Boulder Daily Camera)

I’ve asked my kids and they prefer real textbooks. I get the weight issue, but there are work arounds, like you mentioned Thumper, of buying duplicates of the heavier books.</p>

<p>In our school district, the vast majority had computers with internet at home already. It was totally about prestige, IMHO.</p>

<p>Most of the iniatives to bring iPad to schools would die if all administrators and teachers needed to pay 50 percent of the new TOYS. Apple has an incredibly lengthy and successful history in “convincing” schools to adopt their new wares. </p>

<p>Education funding is a model of corruption and misguided decisions. Apple will do it all can to exploit the market for all it is worth.</p>