should I do SMP or post bacc

so medical school can surely accept me?

Also I have not done any shadowing hours or volunteer because not sure where to start with that.
What to shadow everything or just want you want to do later on?

Some people told me work as emt to get some hours while others said volunteer at your local hospital but what if my local hospital doesn’t accept shadowing people who have a bachelor degree.

There is not enough information about your background to get a meaningful reply.

However, in another post you said you failed some college courses. http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/college-life/2146263-i-fail-some-of-my-college-courses.html#latest As noted on that post with multiple failed courses medical school does not appear to be a viable plan. I’d strongly suggest you sit down with your academic advisor to come up with a short and long term game plan.

If you continue to forge ahead with the idea of med school please do some research first to get a basic understanding of the coursework needed and other requirements to apply to medical school. If you are in college there should be a pre-med advisor on campus. If you are not in college much of this information is available online.

@joeytheduck

No SMP or post bacc can guarantee you admission to a medical school.

To get an medical school admission, you need to have the good grades (mostly As), especially in your science classes, a MCAT score >510, strong letters of recommendation from your college professors, and the expected pre-med ECs ( community service with the disadvantaged, clinical volunteering, physician shadowing, leadership positions in your activities, and lab bench or clinical research). You also need good writing and oral communication skills, good interpersonal skills, cultural competency, and a whole list of other skills and competencies.

[url=https://www.careercenter.illinois.edu/sites/default/files/Core%20Competencies%20forEntering%20Medical%20Students.pdfAAMC 20 Core Competencies for Entering Medical Students.

To even get accepted to a SMP, you need and GPA>3.2- 3.5 (depending on the program). Formal post-baccs usually require a GPA or 3.0 or above.

Clinical volunteering can be as an EMT, but doesn’t need to be. Clinical volunteering MUST put you in direct contact with patients.

where can I sign up for Clinical volunteering MUST put you in direct contact with patients so can count as my admission process? pre-med ECs?

You can look at different hospitals, clinics etc and fill out the application to be a volunteer.

Contact the volunteer coordinator at any nearby hospital or clinic or nursing home where you wish to volunteer and ask to fill out an application. The clinical site will usually require that you take some training classes and provide your immunization records before you can work with patients. (As a FYI, you’ll need an up-to-date flu shot.) The volunteer site will also usually ask you to provide one or more character references as part of your application.

If you want to be an EMT (or CNA or MA), you must hold a valid state license. To get a license, you must first take and pass the training classes and then pass a the state or national licensing exam. You can find EMT, CNA and MA classes at your local community college or at for-profit institutions like Pima Medical Institute.

My daughter got a job just out of college as a patient care technician (nurse’s aide in an inpatient unit of a hospital). She is now applying to DO schools. She didn’t need extra training, although she is certified as an EMT–took the coursework at a community college while she was an undergraduate.

Some volunteer ambulance groups also offer EMT training courses…to help encourage folks to get licensed, and hopefully volunteer with them.

Look at the gpa requirements for such programs.

Lets put this way.

Basically, your GPA and Mcat are the foundations of your application, anything else is just icing on the cake, including your shadowing, clinical experiences, LOR and research. If you do not have a good foundation, that is gpa in the 3.5 and Mcat at 510 range, for the minimum DO acceptance, you are just wasting your time to do those medical ECs, including proposed EMT services etc.

Do not look at those published low stats from the schools, some of the low acceptance stats are for URMs, students form impoverished families, non-traditional applicants and significant ties to the school.

what pre-med ecs? wait how can someone get out college and become a patient care technician (nurse’s aide)? what did she do

You don’t need to be college graduate to be a patient care technician/nurse’s aid. All you need is a high school diploma plus passing a 4 to 12 week long training class that’s offered at most community colleges. (Minimum of 75 hours of classroom and clinical training.) The Red Cross also offer CNA classes. Some nursing homes and rehab centers will even train (at no cost) current low or no-skilled employees as PCTs/CNAs. Finding a CNA/PCT training program isn’t that hard.

Pre-med ECs are the ECs expected from all medical school applicants. Without the appropriate ECs, your application will be DOA even if you have competitive GPA and MCAT score.

The expected pre-med ECs are:
● physicians shadowing, especially w/ primary care physicians
● clinical experience (paid or volunteer)
● community service with the disadvantaged
● leadership positions in your activities
● lab bench or clinical research
● teaching, tutoring or coaching experience