<p>If you thought it didn't matter, you wouldn't have put AA in the first place</p>
<p>UGA is five percent AA.. Yes i thought it would help me.. but the college tech. says that it won't make a difference.</p>
<p>Just like they said apply for agri school or summer admissions doesn't help either..</p>
<p>I somehow feel offended when race or religious affiliation is requested on ANY forms, and I usually leave these areas blank. Nobody would think of asking these (or other) personal questions when evaluating a candidate for a job. Asking immediately implies that some answer is more preferable than another. Leave that to the census bureau!</p>
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<p>Just like on the college application, it is an optional check off box on an application, but you are right it does not travel with the job application</p>
<p>UGA should tell students with-in the next two weeks</p>
<p>If you need to ask, you shouldn't put it down</p>
<p>that has been mentioned... thanks.</p>
<p>its not like i asked if i Can put AA.. i asked what i should do.
Are you saying if you don't know how to do something.. you shouldn't do it?</p>
<p>It's good that you saved that e-mail from the admissions office, because they were almost definitely wrong. I've always seen North African/Middle Eastern as being included under Caucasian on more detailed applications.</p>
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<p>It's not that simple. I lived in Libya for 4 years, and I can tell you that saying that North African Arabs are white is just like saying that Americans are white. Many are but some are not. There are plently of whites and blacks in both populations. And for the same reason - the black Arabs are typically descendants of those who were brought up from the south and enslaved in previous centuries. So in answering the OP's question, it does not depend on whether your ancestors were from Africa, because they could be either white or black. It does not depend on whether your ancestors were Arabs, because they could be either white or black. It depends on whether you are white or black.</p>
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<p>coureur..what if you're tan?
Okay, I'm arab. I was brought up in an arabic-speaking home. I'm muslim, but that doesn't have anything to do with arabs. The definition of arab:</p>
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A member of a Semitic people inhabiting Arabia, whose language and Islamic religion spread widely throughout the Middle East and northern Africa from the seventh century.
A member of an Arabic-speaking people.
An Arabian horse.
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<p>My parents are both from Sudan (a country in North Eastern africa), but my dad is mixed whose family originated in Europe & Middle East. He lived in Sudan all of his life and he speaks arabic. He is pure white. My mom is 100% Sudanese. She speaks arabic and is black. So therefore I am tan. In fact, both of my parents learned english as a 2nd language. Anyway, I'm putting African-American on my future college applications. It's on my social security, and we're legally 'sudanese' when we entered this country. Sudan is an african country, so even though we're arab, I'm NOT caucasian. So..I agree with everyone else. Put what you think is right. I don't think the college admissions will hunt you down to make sure you are african-american.</p>
<p>uga gives out 2k-2.5k rejections a year (not including wait list)
there are 2,700 applications left for review.. and they have only rejected 362 students.</p>
<p>I didn't get in.. AA didnt help me that much</p>
<p>I don't about other colleges, but for the UCs, if you're Arabic, then you're considered White. As much as we try to deny it, race does play some factor, especially in the UCs, for admissions. Just jump over to the UCLA thread to prove my point. But being Asian, I don't really care. I'm proud to put ASIAN - take it or leave it.</p>
<p>I did not bother reading past the first page because I was so disgusted, so I am sorry if I am repeating anything someone said later. Veravictoria, aside from the moral problems with what you suggest, there are a plethora of other resaons why you should be ashamed of yourself. Personally, I am offended that you want to claim you are a part of my race (I'm black) so you can benefit (you think) when it comes to FA. I don't think you ever considered yourself black (at least partly) before now, have you? But, all of a sudden, that one-quarter of you seems awfully helpful right about now, doesn't it? But, that is not enough. You want to identify yourself as Hispanic because people think you might LOOK hispanic. I have news for you: people often think I am Hispanic because I LOOK like I might be and I speak Spanish. But never once have I shamed myself or my people by adopting a new identity so I can reap benefits, real or otherwise. Have enough pride in who and what you are, and the legacy of your ethnicity to represent it in a way that would make your ancestors proud; don't steal someone else's identity. And, last time I checked, there was always a box marked "other" with a line next to it.</p>
<p>you are wrong.. there is not always a box marked other with a line next to it.. hence the subject of my question</p>
<p>I feel some may not be clear of definitions of race and nationality. An Englishman, Hungarian, American, is only stating his country of citizenship(nationality). AfricanAmerican- GermanAmerican- IrishAmerican, etc, is also a matter of nationality. Using my previous example, an AA is an American citizen of African ancestry(or a naturalized citizen), who chooses to state his ancestry in addition to his nationality(probably because of pride in it- a good thing).<br>
White and caucasion would be interchangeable correctly referring to race, but really, AA and black would not. As expressed in previous posts all Americans of African ancestry are not black, because it has been pointed out not every African is black. AA is a nationality; black is a race. Referring again to a previous post- would an English family 5 generations into China be called Chinese? I say yes, because that is presumed to be their citizenship- but they might add "Chinese of English ancestry". My grandfather, O'houlihan became a naturalized citizen. He was proud to say he was an American now.
The key to the first post- and what is cheating- is how the specific question is worded on the questionaire. I have personally seen some that had boxes to check for white/black, etc., but others that said white/AA. How each specific form requests the info is the key.</p>
<p>yeah say that your black if you really want to get in. take advantage of the system sadly that is what i say</p>
<p>if you live in america now</p>
<p>I really don't understand why South African whites aren't considered African Americans. It can't just be about appearance. Some has to be about diversity of culture. My friend's mother is from China and her father is from Canada, but she looks no different from any "caucasian" kids in my school. Yet she is still considered Asian-American. But she doesn't look Asian. How can this be? Is she just cheating the system? Should she have said, "Oh well, I look white, I guess I should check white so that when I get to college they won't think I lied, even though I celebrate Chinese holidays and have Chinese traditions." Jeez...</p>
<p>you have already stated the answer in your question. She is described as Asian-American not because of her "look" but because she is(apparently) an American that has Asian ancestry. See my post, page 3 for more.</p>
<p>why isn't anyone getting this... african american just means black! The term 'black' was deemed not politically correct enough for documents and the like, which is why it is conspicuously absent from the forms of college applications. African American does not mean that you are an american and an african. It means that you identify yourself as a BLACK person, which is why my white morrocan friend was told by our guidance counselor that she could not check african american: she was purposefully misinterpreting the term to suit her needs. She had to check caucasian, because that is her race. End. Of. Story.</p>