Should I submit an SAT of 1510?

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Thanks!

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Is there any way to check the ED2 average specifically? I haven’t heard of these sites before

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Not exactly, but if an applicant’s high school school uses Naviance or SCOIR, you can see the difference in acceptance results of applicants (based on SAT/ACT and GPA) between ED and RD among other applicants from that same high school. I am not familiar with applying as an international student, so there may be no equivalent in your situation.

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Haven’t seen it broken down by ED/RD in Naviance.

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It varies from school to school. All test optional policies are not the same. Some schools prefer to have test scores.

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I’d suggest submitting your SAT score since your overall score is very high and your EBRW is as well. That last is not as common among international applicants into engineering.

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Interesting. We use SCOIR now and you can toggle between all application types, ED and RD. We used to use Naviance, and I thought it was the same, but maybe I am misremembering. It is super handy.

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All depends how detailed the data is that the counselors load in to Naviance/Scoir. Some load the data by round, some don’t. Some load superscore test scores, others don’t. Those factors can make a difference but of course no way to tell the major or school applied to
where differences in acceptance rates can vary dramatically, that’s one of the biggest limitations of Naviance/Scoir.

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Hmm I don’t think my school uses those. I know the ED rate (approx 38%) is higher than the RD rate (16) but I don’t know ED I vs ED II or their SAT breakdown

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Hmm right. I’m assuming there’s no way to tell which school prefer them?

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Yeah, that’s actually what I was told by someone else but my counsellor suggested I don’t send it so kinda confused

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Is there anyway you could check to see the difference in rates and scores for your school? Possibly there is a similar trend for international applicants

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At our school via SCOIR, you can see which major the applicant applied to. You just hover over the applicant on the scattergram. Interesting to learn that these programs are really different depending on how your high school uses them. O

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Hi Sam SB, I actually looked to see, but our school doesn’t have enough ED applicants to that school to see. But, I wonder if someone else on here might go to a school with more applicants to Wash U. Keep in mind though that the info is based on applicants from a given high school, so it will be less relevant to people coming from a different high school.

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Nice! I’ve never seen a school load that data, that’s great.

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Oh okay thanks for checking though. If there’s anyone who does have access to that data, I’d really appreciate that :slight_smile:

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Colleges say a lot of things that they just don’t really mean, and “not sending test scores” won’t affect your application is one of them. For engineering if you don’t send, they’ll assume you took it and didn’t do well or you didn’t take it all, both of which are not considered good. There are majors where colleges expect the applicants to take the test and engineering is one of them. Not getting into Duke without scores should tell you something.

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Those were actually my exact first thoughts but a friend of mine didn’t get into UPenn with a 1550. But he was a business applicant so maybe it’s different. My counsellor assured me scored had nothing to do with it but I’m still not so sure - is there any way I send the scores but somehow get across to them that my math marks are an outlier? Maybe through screenshots of practice tests or emphasising my top maths grades so far?

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Do you have any evidence to support this?

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Lots of students are getting accepted to top colleges without submitting test scores, Duke included.

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