<p>I wasn’t there, I don’t know if he was or is evil. The jury unanimously found that he had criminal intent.</p>
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<p>That is not exactly how it works. The conviction is what is important and not the actual sentence. Many people have been deported without having been sentenced to a single day of confinement. </p>
<p>Not only is deportation a possibility, but it will take for many stars to align “magically” for Ravi to avoid deportation. It might take some extremely high-level to wrestle him away from ICE, which is bound to apply the current and incredibly inflexible legislation on inadmissibility.</p>
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<p>I understand exactly what you are saying. </p>
<p>I was just reporting what I have read. What the article was saying (and I am paraphrasing, I don’t have it in front of me), that pursuing the matter will be up to discretion of immigration authority.</p>
<p>Also, during immigration hearing the prosecutor (not the criminal one, the one acting on behalf of ICE) has discretion too.</p>
<p>I know someone who had a green card and pleaded to felony misdemeanor during criminal proceedings. Then during immigration hearing his lawyer and the prosecutor agreed that the charge was too serious given the offense and said that it should have been gross misdemeanor and therefore this person should not be deported. By this time the person in question already served the time for his crime. On his record it was still showing up as a felony misdemeanor and he could not obtain citizenship because of that, but he was not deported. He eventually obtained citizenship because he “found religion” during his time in jail and decided to straiten his life, so he joined National Guard and served a tour a duty in Iraq (he actually now served two tours of duty - just came back from his second tour of duty from Kuwait).</p>
<p>I read of cases that bear out Xiggi’s observations; as far as ICE is concerned, it’s a conviction itself that’s the keystone to deportation, not the severity (or lack thereof) of the sentence. In Washington State and in New York for example, long time resident non-USA citizens were seized by ICE and scheduled for deportation based on criminal convictions for relatively minor drug offenses commited by them when they were youngters. In both cases I speak of, these folks had no major confrontations with the law prior to their deportation problem and they bore children whom were born in the USA.</p>
<p>"I am sure there was disciplinary action by the school, but this involved the death of one of their students who died off campus - how could the police NOT be involved in the initial investigation of that death? "</p>
<p>He was not charged with homicide.</p>
<p>" read of cases that bear out Xiggi’s observations; as far as ICE is concerned, it’s a conviction itself that’s the keystone to deportation, not the severity (or lack thereof) of the sentence."</p>
<p>Under current DHS policy, the U.S. government will only seek deportation for serious felons. A felon is one who is convicted of a crime for which the sentence COULD BE a year or more. The fact that he was only sentenced to thirty days is not determinative, but would be material.</p>
<p>However, the Obama administration has the discretion to seek deportation. To do so would be a departure from its current policy of only seeking to deport violent felons, drug an human smugglers, repeate border-crossers, etc.</p>
<p>We are facing the deportation here of a six-year Army veteran with a 90% military disability (post-911) because he allegedly had a misdemeanor conviction when he was living in Australia that he apparently hadn’t reported when he became a volunteer fireman. (he is originally from Pakistan). He has had four deportation hearings thus far. He has never served a single day in jail, either in the U.S. or in Australia or in Pakistan. He has never be convicted, or even charged, with a felony of any kind.</p>
<p>I am hesitant to get involved in discussions like these, because I feel like I can never adequately distance myself from the issue. However, I will say this: I was the subject of bullying in high school, some of it arguably just as cruel-spirited as Ravi’s actions have been perceived, and some of it sexual in nature.These things are, for lack of better word, damaging, although just how damaging they are depends a lot on the targeted individual as well. God knows my sense of self-worth took a pretty significant hit, and although things are MUCH better now then they were my sophomore year in high school, I can’t say it’s something I ever truly got over. Bullying is damaging, whether you are gay or straight, male or female, etc.</p>
<p>That being said, I shudder to think that some of the kids in my high school could have been prosecuted for their actions, and I am vehemently against the idea of Ravi being deported. Yes, I know that the charges that Ravi faced–and was convicted of–did not directly address Clementi’s suicide, but focused on the nature of Ravi’s actions; however, had Tyler not committed suicide, would Ravi really have ever been charged with anything if the University found out about his actions? Of course not. The University would have dealt with the issue, and that would have been that. But because of Tyler’s actions, Ravi’s case has become a prolific “example” and the face of the anti-bullying campaign, and has faced more public vilification than a lot of convicted, hardened criminals face. Personally, while I know that it would have been absolutely inappropriate to do so, I almost agree with the user who said that reading Tyler’s suicide note might have helped the jurors to distance Ravi’s actions from Tyler’s actions after the incidents. In my opinion, he’s pretty clearly being prosecuted for his role in Tyler’s death, even if the charges are not directly related to the suicide.</p>
<p>Please forgive me if I am coming off as insensitive to the Clementi family. That is absolutely not my intent. I’ll be honest: I don’t completely forgive a lot of the people who made my life miserable in high school, especially those responsible for sexual harassment. I went to a large high school and I am not the only one who was miserable; bullying was a pretty widespread problem, and some people received treatment that was a lot more cruel than I did. But deporting someone for actions like these? Are you kidding me? Ruining his entire life for a small, vindictive mistake is not the way to make this situation better; in fact, it probably engenders negative feelings towards the anti-bullying movement, who are perceived as overzealous. </p>
<p>Ravi should be punished for his immature and cruel actions, but I absolutely don’t think he should be deported.</p>
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<p>Well, despite the many postings declaring that ICE is inflexible and that there is NO WAY Ravi could avoid deportation, it appears that this assertion is completely wrong, at least according to an article posted today.</p>
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<p>[Ex-Rutgers</a> student Dharun Ravi in webcam spy case released from NJ jail - U.S. News](<a href=“http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/19/12299268-ex-rutgers-student-dharun-ravi-in-webcam-spy-case-released-from-nj-jail?lite]Ex-Rutgers”>http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/19/12299268-ex-rutgers-student-dharun-ravi-in-webcam-spy-case-released-from-nj-jail?lite)</p>
<p>Ravi will likely land on his feet just fine. He is an intelligent, well connected young man who can now move on with his life. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him make it rich from the inevitable book and movie.</p>