<p>I’m not that SAT score and grades are the only factors that determine the selection. Not everyone who went from my school had an SAT score higher than 2300.</p>
<p>Just wondering, does anyone know if there’s less of a chance of getting in if you don’t actually live in California?</p>
<p>do most simr kids end up in stanford</p>
<p>@prettylittleliar: I highly doubt it. It’s not like they’re providing housing for non-CA participants, so as long as the participants can get their own housing somewhere, why would SIMR care? They’d be missing out on really talented kids (and potential Siemens/Intel/ISTS winners to boost the program’s prestige xD)
If there end up being way more in-state than out-of-state people accepted, that’s likely because way more local people apply.</p>
<p>prettylittleliar</p>
<p>I believe that the reason that there were less out-of-state people this year, (according to the creator of this thread), is that a lot more people apply locally, especially considering that the program doesn’t offer housing. </p>
<p>I go to a high school in CA, and there are quite a few kids from my school that apply each year (I would estimate in the range of 15-30). However, each year, usually only one person ends up being selected to participate.</p>
<p>Also, to clarify, the Arthritis Foundation Research Program interns, if placed in the Stanford Division (There is a UCSF division as well), participate through SIMR. </p>
<p>I wanted to bring this up, simply because in past years, students from my school have taken this route in applying, and have found their experiences to be very rewarding :)</p>
<p>Take note that it is also really difficult to be selected for the Arthritis Foundation Fellowship.</p>
<p>Bump to the first page.</p>
<p>2 more weeks</p>
<p>Anyone care to compare Clark, Simons, Garcia, SIMR, City of Hope, and/or SSP? Specifically in terms of prestige, quality of experience, and the results of the participants in ISEF/STS/Siemens? A ranking (though superficial) would be nice.</p>
<p>This is completely my opinion, but I would say:</p>
<ol>
<li>City of Hope</li>
<li>SSP</li>
<li>Clark</li>
<li>SIMR</li>
<li>Simons</li>
<li>Garcia</li>
</ol>
<p>Does anybody has a profile of the accepted students in 2012? It would be very helpful while waiting for the result. Let’s have a good luck!</p>
<p>Clark, Simons, and Garcia probably send the highest proportion of their participants to semis of Intel/Siemens. Here’s my ranking of programs by science fair potential:</p>
<p>1) Clark
2) Simons/Garcia
3) SIMR/CoH
4) SSP (not a research program)</p>
<p>As far as prestige, Clark, SSP, and SIMR are pretty much tied at the top. However, Stanford’s name affords SIMR more lay prestige (“I’m researching at Stanford this summer!”). My ranking:</p>
<p>1) SIMR
2) Clark/SSP
3) City of Hope (well-known research institution)
4) Simons/Garcia</p>
<p>Quality of experience is totally subjective and difficult to compare since most have not attended more than one of these hyper-selective programs. From my impressions on CC, however, I would rank them thusly:</p>
<p>1) Clark
2) SSP
3) SIMR/CoH
4) Simons/Garcia</p>
<p>So Simons/Garcia are lower than SIMR in terms of quality and prestige ?</p>
<p>And SIMR doesn’t have very many Intel/Siemens in comparison to Garcia?</p>
<p>can anyone provide some information (with link) as to the number of STS/ISEF semifinalsts and finalists clark produces? simons seems to be the best as far as results in research competitions (judging by what they have listed on their website) but the popular opinion seems to favor clark over simons for some reason. can someone explain?</p>
<p>@numbersense: I would say that SIMR is decidedly more prestigious, but Simons/Garcia definitely produce more Intel/Siemens semifinalists. As far as quality, however, they are probably similar. Though I placed SIMR higher because it’s at Stanford and because it’s in California (awesome facilities and awesome weather).</p>
<p>@jokolomo: Clark only has 12 or so scholars a year, yet more than half (I believe; I can get more stats when I’m home from school) make Intel/Siemens. While Simons/Garcia do produce many semifinalists, I don’t believe the ratio is as high.</p>
<p>Can someone help me figure out my chances of getting into SIMR (I know it’s not a perfect science, just a general idea). I’m trying to gauge where I will be this summer, since I applied to other programs as well. Thanks in advance. </p>
<p>GPA: 4.32 (out of 4.33)</p>
<p>SAT: 2320</p>
<p>AP Classes (if there’s no score in parentheses, I’m currently taking the course): AP Chemistry (5), AP Biology, AP Physics C, AP Calculus AB (5), AP Calculus BC, AP World History (5), AP U.S. History, AP English Language, AP Latin Vergil. </p>
<p>Awards:
Maureen ODonnell Oxford Classical Dictionary Award
National Latin Exam Summa Cum Laude (4 time winner)
Honors Biology Award (in-school thing)
Honors Latin IV Award (in-school thing)
American Mathematics Competition (AMC) 12 School-Wide Highest Score, Top 1% Nationwide (11)
Qualifier for the American Invitational Mathematics Exam (AIME), 1 of 5 from Trinity Prep in 2013 (11)
AP Scholar
National Honor Society (10, 11)
National Latin Honor Society (10, 11)
National Junior Honor Society (8,9)
Presidential Volunteer Service Award (two-time winner)
Headmasters List (9, 10, 11) </p>
<p>Research: Internship at a lab at UCF last summer</p>
<p>Essays: they were ok, it’s kind of hard to judge them. </p>
<p>Teacher Rec: Should be pretty good, he likes me a lot</p>
<p>I am from Florida, but I have a pretty stable source for housing (family that lives in the Bay Area).</p>
<p>Oh, other extracurriculars: Debate, Latin Competitions, a couple startup business/websites, student coordinator of volunteer organization Orlando chapter; travelled a lot (I wrote about it in my diversity essay - India, Australia, New Zealand, Tanzania, Egypt, Japan, and some generic European countries); taking online course in Organic Chemistry from UIllinois at Urbana-Champaign</p>
<p>Do you think SIMR will only take students who have Honors Bio or higher? Has anyone who has not taken AP Bio been accepted so far?</p>
<p>Not entirely sure about your chances, but if you want to know, here are the only negatives I could come up with. You seem spread waaaaaaay too thin and and not really focused intently on science. The organic chemistry course is obviously through Coursera (that’s very transparent), and your diversity essay probably may have been intended to make you seem cultured but you could have come through as rich and fortunate. You seem like a good candidate, but I wouldn’t count on anything. I feel like it’s going to boil down to essays and research experience/initiative in the case of most qualified applicants.</p>
<p>You probably have as good a shot as most applicants.</p>
<p>If work super hard with my mentor during the summer… and stay after with my mentor/Contact my mentor for new data. Also, start my poster, LaTex Abstract, Paper, criteria for submission for JSHS, BioGENIUS, SIEMENS and Intel ISEF too
Do I have a chance of Intel STS Finalist?</p>
<p>Are you serious? That’s probably the worst question I’ve seen on CC. STS doesn’t care about how hard you work, what you use to write your abstract, or how many competitions you enter. 1) Do original research that you are interested in. 2) Know what you are doing. 3) Don’t use a mentor’s idea/work for your project. Then you’ll have as good a chance as anyone. Nothing you mentioned can help anyone judge your chances.</p>
<p>Also, why is STS so important? Do it for the sake of doing it, and see what happens.</p>