<p>Is it not unreasonable to look toward outside state schools to go to school? The tuition is nearing out of state school tuition at other states.</p>
<p>Fair assessment.</p>
<p>Yes. We’re not in CA, but D2 got into our IS public with their highest merit award and it was only the 3rd least expensive college she was admitted to. One of the others was an OOS public that had relatively low OOS tuition plus excellent merit awards and the other was a school with very generous need based FA.</p>
<p>Why are you saying it ‘may rise to $22K’? That’s double what it is now so I don’t think it’s likely to happen any time soon. Where are you getting that figure from?</p>
<p>Desirablity is part of the equation. At least so far, there aren’t many OOS state schools that would appeal to most students as much as many of the UCs for academic reputation, location, employment opportunities, etc. </p>
<p>A lot of the students at the top UCs already could attend decent private colleges for the same or less than the cost of the UC so as the tuition rises I think those would be considered more than OOS state schools.</p>
<p>California’s not the only state with fiscal issues and not the only state where the state college system has funding issues and rising costs so those OOS options might not look so attractive financially.</p>
<p>I’ve been thinking about a thread addressing state’s health in general - we all know about California - and I hear rumblings about other states pulling budget stunts with their own flagships. Once in a while I read about states that are doing better (maybe it was the Dakotas, or Montana?) and are taking care of their schools.</p>
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<p><a href=“http://www.mercurynews.com/lookiloos/ci_18899739[/url]”>http://www.mercurynews.com/lookiloos/ci_18899739</a></p>
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<p>There are a lot of ‘ifs’ in the article and the UCs are no doubt doing what they can to vie for their piece of the pie which includes leveraging the media. There’s a point of diminishing returns as costs increase and there will be a point at which they’ll lose more and more students - likely to privates. They might even be forced to look at the other variable in the equation and reduce costs.</p>
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<p>Another article on the subject -
[UC</a> regents recoil at possibility of annual steep tuition hikes - Los Angeles Times](<a href=“http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/16/local/la-me-uc-20110916]UC”>Tuition plan alarms UC board)
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<p>I guess we’ll need to see what ends up happening.</p>
<p>If you’re low income/low EFC, then it won’t really matter what the UCs raise their fees to…B&G will cover it.</p>
<p>One of the reasons that there is this discussion to substantially raise UC cost is to help pay for its very generous Cal Grant and B&G program.</p>
<p>And, OOS publics aren’t likely going to give you the aid you need.</p>
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<p>It’s not a “stunt.” The California legislature has steadfastly blocked tax increases to address the budget crisis, which leaves only service cuts. In order to remain a going concern, UC has no choice but to raise tuition. The no-taxes sentiment is nationwide so, yes, I’d expect other states will begin to experience this. Accessible and affordable college for everyone is going to become a thing of the past.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>I agree that it’s not a stunt in Calif’s case…there’s just not enough money for higher education since I think about half of the General Fund is mandated to go to K-12… The college money has to come from somewhere else.</p>
<p>But in the case of some other states, states have “tested the waters” on budget cuts and have seen some universities being able to make up the cuts with more donations or other sources…or with some budget juggling, they’re able to absorb the cuts. That can then lead the states to enact further cuts.</p>
<p>Other sources include more out of staters who pay full price…</p>
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<p>However, most public schools do not give much financial aid to out-of-state students. You have to compare the net cost of in-state (expensive list price, but with financial aid) versus cheap out-of-state (less expensive list price, but with less financial aid). Or private schools (or the few out-of-state public schools with decent financial aid for out-of-state students) that have decent or better financial aid (more expensive list price, but with more financial aid).</p>
<p>That said, cheap out-of-state schools like Minnesota and Virginia Tech may still be attractive after making this comparison.</p>
<p>*Originally Posted by davidthefat
Is it not unreasonable to look toward outside state schools to go to school? The tuition is nearing out of state school tuition at other states. </p>
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<p>If I recall, you have a low (0??) EFC and your family can’t help with any costs. And, you have a GPA issue? If so, your best bet is to stay instate where Cal Grants and other aid can help you with costs. </p>
<p>If you go to an OOS public, you may only get a Pell grant and a stafford loan, so how would you pay for a school that costs $20k - 40k per year?</p>
<p>There are public schools with low OOS tuition and which also offer merit $ for their OOS students. My son attends one, in Montana. Montana is (I believe) the only state with a budget surplus, and its governor already publicly announced there will be no tuition increase for at least the next 2 years. My son also received $4,000/year for 4 years scholarship based on his SAT scores. All told, we’re paying $6,000 a year less than in-state at University of Coloarado/Boulder, and $8,000 a year less than in-state at Colorado State. The cost of living in Montana is lower than in Colorado, so we’ll save even more when he moves out of the dorms. </p>
<p>It CAN be done. That said, the school my son attends does not have the international renown of a UC-Berkeley, UCLA or even, for that matter, University of Colorado-Boulder. I believe that as long as Cal and UCLA remain the academic powerhouses they are today, there will be lots of candidates willing to pay their tuitions, even if it goes up to $22k/year.</p>