Sitting in a Whaton Class

<p>You are not allowed to visit summer courses. This is explained clearly on our website (<a href="http://undergrad.wharton.upenn.edu/highlights/prospectivestudents.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://undergrad.wharton.upenn.edu/highlights/prospectivestudents.cfm&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p>

<p>"Come and visit a Wharton class while you are on-campus. Class visits for the Fall semester will not begin until Monday, September 12th. Class visits for the Spring semester will not begin until Monday, January 16th. Class visits are not available during the summer." </p>

<p>Summer courses are structured very differently from courses that are offered during the academic year due to the length of each class and the amount of material that needs to be covered. </p>

<p>It is not appropriate for you to contact faculty members directly to ask them to sit in on their class. If we promoted that kind of behavior amongst prospective students our faculty members would get bombarded with requests.</p>

<p>WhartonAdvisor: what if the professor replied that there was no problem with sitting in his class and to just show up on the agreed date and time?</p>

<p>TheWorld, I definitely wouldn't recommend sitting in on Financial Derivatives; it's way up there, everything'll go over your head and it won't be an accurate picture of the courses you're taking. Also, summer classes aren't a good indicator of Penn academic life.</p>

<p>I'd say you're better off taking a day off from school and visiting during the year. If you're particular to Elul, you can sit in on his honors Finance 100 class this fall. </p>

<p>Feel free to PM me and I'll give you my email address, I'd be happy to recommend a few professors you might want to chekc out and give you the times of their classes. Most would be happy to let you sit in.</p>

<p>IIRC, we got a list of classes at the intro session that we were able to sit in on. I went to one at Huntsman Hall, introduced myself to the prof before the class and thanked him after. It was actually pretty boring, but I got to talk to some of the other kids afterwards about the school.</p>

<p>I second the recommendation to avoid derivatives. Half of finance majors even avoid that class because it is so difficult.</p>

<p>If the professor agrees, then it's fine to go. However, you shouldn't be contacting them directly to see if you can sit in on classes. Every semester, I contact faculty members to see if they are willing to allow students to sit in on their classes. If they agree, they go on our list of approved courses. We do not allow students to sit in on classes in the summers, nor do we include upper-level courses on the list simply because they are not appropriate classes for high school students to visit.</p>

<p>WhartonAdvisor: would you say that FNCE 206 920 Financial Derivatives is an upper-level course?</p>

<p>Yes, definitely! FNCE 206 is typically a SR year course taken by Finance concentrators and is one of THE hardest classes you can take in Wharton.</p>

<p>WhartonAdvisor: Do you have any comments about Professor Elul?</p>

<p>^ I dont think you should sit in a class during the summer.</p>

<p>WhartonAdvisor said that you are NOT allowed to do so and if you do sit in a class, that would look really BAD considering it says that on the website and someone told you it's a bad idea.</p>

<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>

<p>excel: whartonadvisor said this as well: "If the professor agrees, then it's fine to go. However, you shouldn't be contacting them directly to see if you can sit in on classes. Every semester, I contact faculty members to see if they are willing to allow students to sit in on their classes. If they agree, they go on our list of approved courses. We do not allow students to sit in on classes in the summers, nor do we include upper-level courses on the list simply because they are not appropriate classes for high school students to visit."</p>

<p>Also, I have 5 APs for my senior year and a lot of clubs so that I can not even miss one day of school. For me it is not so easy just to say "well I'll just miss one school day to visit UPenn." Considering the fact that I was given permission by the professor to visit his class.</p>

<p>excel you said this "WhartonAdvisor said that you are NOT allowed to do so and if you do sit in a class, that would look really BAD considering it says that on the website and someone told you it's a bad idea." How could it look bad on my applicaiton if I contacted the professor, and went out of my way to do that, thus showing how serious I am about going to the school. The website did not specifically say that you are not allowed to sit in a summer class, but rather that "Class visits are not available during the summer." Those are two different things. I am not trying to bend the websites words in my favor, but rather pointing out that I am not doing so bad that would tarnish my application. You are acting as if visiting a summer class is the equivalent of getting arrested.</p>

<p>i hope you understand that a mere visit to a summer section senior-level finance class is not going to be a factor on your application, either positive or negative.</p>

<p>second, asking for comments about the course and professor you've chosen to visit isn't really going to help you much because most of us aren't wharton alumni that concentrated in finance (and therefore we haven't taken the course or even may not have heard of that professor).</p>

<p>third, i'm not sure how far away you live from campus, but many people are able to make time to visit with courseloads equal to or greater than yours. since this particular course is so difficult, small, and part of a summer session (and you're coming at the very end too! not good timing! finals are this week!), i'd advise you to focus your visit more on your feel for the campus - if you feel at home here, and if you like what you see.</p>

<p>I can't believe you used so many exclamation points, Yoshi. I never expected you to do such a thing.</p>

<p>I am going on the last day of real material. Before the final and the review session for the final. I live a measurable distance from UPenn. I am going to take a set of trains there, not going to get there by car. This takes out all of my day. If I was to do this during a regular school week, i would come to school very weary the next day. Actually a visit to this class might be a slight factor. There is a question that asks what professor you want to study under, I am going to find out if I believe i would want to study under this professor.</p>

<p>Tell me how it goes after you visit! :)</p>

<p>Also, for the app, thw professor question's answer is only 2-3 sentences? How do we answer this?</p>

<p>Professor Elul is a visiting professor. I actually had him for FNCE 100 and at that time he was visiting from Princeton. You will see that if you try to look him up on Wharton's websites he doesn't exist. And if you look him up on the FNCE department website, he has no office number or phone number. So he isn't a standing Wharton faculty member and therefore probably wouldn't be useful at all for the "what professor do you want to study with" question.</p>

<p>But hey, if you're applying to the Fed instead of Penn, then he might not be a bad person to talk to.</p>

<p>what did you mean by "the Fed?"</p>

<p>the federal reserve bank</p>