so how big of a reach is Umich for me? is it even worht applying?

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<p>well it is obviously good
ALOT of my friends and colleagues over the years go there
and they recommend it </p>

<p>However, my college counselor and some other people ive talked to said that I shouldnt waste the 65 dollars to apply because i'll get rejected right away</p>

<p>I dont care about the money (my parents said they'll pay for a few apps anyway)</p>

<p>so I wanted to know what you guys thought
be as blatantly honest as possible</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>I go to Stuyvesant High School in New York City, for those of you who dont know I think it is the best public school in NYC and top 20 nationally</p>

<p>Perhaps due to its workload in combination with some familial troubles lasting throughout my soph and junior years, my grades have tanked</p>

<p>However, I dont think I am less knowledgable than any other classmate concerning the courses I didnt do as well in</p>

<p>Without boring you too much, basically my
Gpa is a 80
but the transcript that gets sent out to colleges by my school do not include failed classes(and i made up all my failed classes)</p>

<p>So I think I have a 83 gpa to work with
and I also heard that colleges weight junior/senior years more heavily, and my avgs in those 2 years (currently in senior year) are 85 and 88 respectively</p>

<p>i know, still not amazing</p>

<p>Also, coming from a school with 3300 students to serve, AP classes' ddemand always outnumbers supply, so the only AP class I have been able to get into is World History</p>

<p>However, Most of the classes taught at Stuyvesant high school are scaled to SAT II level content so
its not like ive been flying by easy courses</p>

<p>My SAT scores are as follows:
-Oct '09- CR- 690, Math-750, Writing-750
I took them again in december and
with hopeful speculation
It will probably be something like
-CR- 720, Math-780, Writing-750(unless my essay bumps to an 11 or 12)</p>

<p>SAT Subject tests also all came in 2009:
-Chemistry in Jun 09- 760
-Math II in Nov 09- 780
-if I must send a 3rd, it would be U.S. History Nov 09 - 680
(im still really mad at both myself and the barrons review book for being such trash about the history)
but the past is the past</p>

<p>my extracirriculars:
-Quizbowl Soph year
-Key Club Soph and Junior Year</p>

<p>the preponderance of what i put under activities on college applications is as follows:</p>

<p>-SYEP 2007(summer Job)
-SYEP 2009(summer job)
-NYC Department of parks and recreation 2008 (volunteer)
-Michael Bloomberg Mayoral campaign, fall 2009 (both paid and as a volunteer)
-Toys R Us employee (spring 2009)
-Public Health Solutions Queens fall 2009 (volunteer)
I have also tutored fitfully throughout my Hs career, although I have been unsuccessful in contacting my former "employers"(should I still put this?)</p>

<p>I have 3 recommendations from 2 teachers and a counselor who love me</p>

<p>and my english teachers (Columbia and NYU graduates) have both said that my essays are amongst the most profound and eloquent that they've ever read (although I question the full veracity of that statement, for they can say that for a bunch of essays)</p>

<p>I honestly do not believe that a person's future should be dictated by a component(GPA) that will drag the rest of the application down</p>

<p>rather, it should be looked at as an entire entity, inseperable.</p>

<p>Thank you for reading, and tell me what you think!</p>

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<p>Go ahead man, you definitely have a chance</p>

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<p>Your school college counselor probably has a good idea of how students with your stats do when they apply to Michigan, but I don’t think he is right in saying that you would be wasting your money by applying. It is hard to understand your GPA since each school has different standards, but applicants from top schools generally do not have 3.8+ GPAs. Your SAT is certainly good enough. I would definitely give Michigan is a try, although it is getting late in the admissions cycle. You should have applied 7-8 weeks ago.</p>

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<p>oh la la a Stuy kid
go ahead and apply, btw the app fee is forty bucks</p>

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<p>your test scores make up for your not so great gpa. normally i would say that gives you a huge boost at any school you’re applying to, but realized that michigan has empirically weighed your gpa/class rank higher then anything else in your application.
i say go for it still, you never know. but with being out of state and with a low-ish gpa it may be quite a reach. good luck!</p>

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<p>Definitely worth applying! Your EC’s sound pretty good and apparently your essays are the bomb. Also, your SAT’s are better than mine and I was accepted a couple of weeks ago. Your GPA is a concern but if your school is THAT well respected, I’m sure your counselor will be able to explain the rigor of your classes and the difficulty to enroll in AP classes. Good luck!</p>

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<p>since you go to Stuy (nationally respected high school) with a 83 average and a 2190 SAT, you definitely have a chance of getting into Michigan, go ahead and apply</p>

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<p>You’re applying to Michigan with a GPA of 80? Holy ****.</p>

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<p>^ Dude he goes to Stuy which is probably the best public school in America.</p>

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<p>You have a good chance. Apply</p>

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<p>i know your high school (i live in NJ) and you should def apply you have a very good shot</p>

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<p>Definitely go for it.
Stuy is known for being academically rigorous and I’m sure the adcoms at UMich will know about it to compensate for a 80 GPA.</p>

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<p>my bad. i didnt see which high school he went to</p>

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<p>I’m also from Stuy, and I sent in my applications yesterday and scores yesterday. When do you think the decision will come back? sorry for hijacking your thread btw if I did. You should apply. Those SAT scores are higher than many who have gotten in already.</p>

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<p>lol why should i have sent it in 7-8 weeks ago
i was still awaiting my nov sat scores
and i havent taken my dec sats yet</p>

<p>also my teacheres werent toooo hasty in submitting my recs</p>

<p>and i thought the deadline is in like February </p>

<p>and thanks to anyone who responded so far!</p>

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<p>antonioray, the reason you should have submitted your application 7-8 weeks ago is because Michigan gives preference to students who apply before November 1. The chance of admission for qualified students like you is much better if you apply early.</p>

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<p>^ Indeed, many years ago, I applied to U-M before November 1, and received my acceptance letter in December.</p>

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<p>i think the deadline might be jan 1st, i applied EA so i dont know really.
i would definitely apply, i am in-state so i am not familiar with what it takes for an OOS student but your gpa isnt that bad and your scores are very good and they are definitely in a high percentile at u of m.</p>

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<p>APPLY!! You really don’t have much to lose!!:D</p>

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<p>Hey, I just got in with an 88.9 (100 point scale) to COE. I went to a greater NYC area boarding school (it was hard) and I guess they accounted that into my GPA. You going to to Stuy means you have a chance with your GPA. Good luck bro.</p>