So this New Yorker Goes to Michigan...

<p>Tom, you're totally right, and I agree with almost everything you wrote. We're getting there, but it's going to take time.</p>

<p>Chris</p>

<p>Mom EL,
If you're worried about tuition increases and like SUNY schools, check out the Oswego Guarentee. They freeze tuition for 4 years as long as the student doesn't fail out.
SUNY</a> Oswego - Admissions: Undergraduate: Oswego Guarantee</p>

<p>tomslawsky, I am probably missing something, but where is the guarantee about freezing tuition? I just do not see this as part of their guarantee. Has the guarantee changed?</p>

<p>Wow, are any other SUNY's like that?</p>

<p>northeastmom, </p>

<p>I think tomslawsky has it backwards, it is not the tuition that is frozen for 4 years but the room and board that is frozen.</p>

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Room and board now account for about 60 percent of the cost of an Oswego residential education. We guarantee that students entering Oswego in the fall of 2005 will not experience any increase in the cost of room or meal plans for four consecutive years. For students and their families, this means that the major portion of the cost of a residential education will be held constant for four years.

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<p>Probably a more controllable number, as housing/meal costs and fees are not subject to legislative "issues" regarding funding - they are self supporting. If the cost of providing services goes up more than predicted, I would think next year's 4-year guarantee will be priced to make up the difference. </p>

<p>The idea of something being predictable is good, though.</p>

<p>R&B does not seem to go up as much as tuition, especially OOS tuition, at most publics. It helps, but it would not really influence us one way or the other. Thanks for clarifying goaliedad.</p>

<p>My bad...sorry
Tuition freeze would be nice. I'm currently getting my MBA from U-Florida and we pay $30,000 for the entire 27 month program. The price is rozen and includes tuition, fees, registration, text books and lunch for the 1 weekend per month we go. I was confused.</p>

<p>Yeah, they can't freeze tuition, because they don't set it -- SUNY does. But campuses can do whatever they want with R&B.</p>

<p>Chris</p>

<p>sbuadmissions...you from stony Brooke? Nnice school, it was my first choice over Oswego back in the day, but in the end, I fell in love with Oswego's campus.</p>

<p>As Tom stated, the problem with SUNY schools in general is the lack of division 1 sports and name recognition. SUNY Binghamton and SUNY Albany have both been in the top 64 in recent years for NCAA Basietball, which is a start. U of Michigan, Penn State, U of Virgina, U of Georgia, etc. Each state has one flagship state U that has tremendous name recognition. However, name recogntion comes with sports exposure. If any SUNY graduate wants to move OOS after graduation, a prospective employer will not know about the reputation of most SUNY schools. It is a shame. My older son attends UMichigan, and we pay a fortune OOS. However, there is NO SUNY school where he would get the same overall experience that he is getting in Michigan. I am very bitter that the SUNY schools don't offer this kind of experience. We pay the highest taxes in the nation and many people that can afford to, send their children OOS for school. This doesn't happen in any other state.</p>

<p>Michone, you may be right, but there is no need to have this massive subsidy of OOS to have an athletic program. Glick, on state senate or assembly committee for higher ed, is concerned about equity of OOS pricing.</p>