<p>Emahee, you sound very bright, and like you already know the obvious (which of course I’m going to have to say, being a parent myself). Sometimes adults are full of crap (even our own parents), sometimes they’re hassling you because of their own problems, fears and issues. If you can’t talk it out or get any useful feedback, avoid as much as possible…but realize when something is their problem, not yours. You sound like you’re doing everything you can. They are probably just worried about you and unable to control their fear. Perhaps if they saw in writing the specifics of what you are doing, applying to each different company, as maybe they think you’re just playing games on the internet. But I’m sure when you get a job they will never remember how bad they made you feel, but only think it was their support and encouragement that got you through!</p>
<p>^Yep, that’s exactly what they’ll think-- that was how college admissions went. They didn’t want me to go, gave me hell, flat out told me I couldn’t go to Umich when I got in, and then took credit for it when it came time to tell the family. </p>
<p>I’m considering wallpapering the hall with sticky notes for all the companies I’ve applied for so maybe they’ll see all I am doing and shut up. It’s hard because I AM disabled and I am going against the current as it is getting myself to do as well as I am and to be told I am doing nothing right is infuriating. They have no idea what my life is like or about anything that I do with my time-- I’ve tried to share and they are not interested-- but then they still want to be able to jump in to tell me I’m doing it all wrong. And if I get annoyed, they throw my student loans back at me. I’m the only one of their kids that /isn’t/ screwing everything up and they are always nagging me to death and leaving the others alone!</p>
<p>On another note, I found a really neat job to apply for that I am actually qualified for that pays significantly more than the other postings I’ve been finding, so I am excited about that. And I was running low on people I wanted to use as professional references, and I secured a really, really good one. And today I refreshed myself on my excel skills and started teaching myself quickbooks. I need a job, look at the things I resort to for entertainment!</p>
<p>“And today I refreshed myself on my excel skills and started teaching myself quickbooks. I need a job, look at the things I resort to for entertainment!”</p>
<p>That is surely going above and beyond the normal type of jobseeking most people do. I hope you get a great job, and your independence very soon. Families can really drive one to insanity…but maybe soon enough you’ll get opportunities to get far enough away that you deal with them only when you please. Good luck!</p>
<p>Jobs Harder to Find as Natural Unemployment Shifts</p>
<p>The so-called natural unemployment rate is somewhere around 7%, according to Mark Vitner, a senior economist at Wells Fargo. Other economists peg the natural unemployment rate somewhere between 5.5% and 7%. They said the figure will be held higher by a skills mismatch in the labor market that has been growing since the 1970s, the recent extension of unemployment benefits and the 2009 minimum wage increase.</p>
<p>“Businesses are looking to hire, but the workers they are looking to hire are not there in the abundance that they want them to be,” Vitner said.</p>
<p>Slightly more than half of U.S. businesses are having trouble finding the right candidate for open jobs, according to a survey released today of 1,322 U.S. businesses by global recruitment firm ManpowerGroup. In 2010, only 14% of respondents had similar gripes.</p>
<p>For instance, there are about 600,000 job openings in education and health services and almost 600,000 in professional and business services according to the BLS. Both of these sectors have very high rates of job openings compared to total positions, about 3% each, meaning that there is a lack of talent to fill the positions. This is as opposed to construction, which currently has 67,000 job openings, which is only 1.2% of all such positions.</p>
<p>“We’re at an inflection point,” said Brett Good, a senior district president with Robert Half International. “Every survey that we’ve conducted has indicated that hiring managers are saying it’s harder and harder to find the talent they’re looking for at the professional level.”</p>
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<p>Congrats to Dkitty’s child who got what sounds like an excellent job! We are in the midst of helping S find an apartment in a city 5000 miles from our home & 2500 miles from where he got his EE degree. So far, we have looked at 3 apartment complexes & have an appointment to see a condo & perhaps a few other possibilities tomorrow. It is a challenge finding “the right” place, but all of the units we saw today were attractive enough and appear to be located in good areas quite near his workplace. </p>
<p>We have our fingers crossed on the place we will be seeing tomorrow that things will work out, as it has wood floors rather than carpet, which should be somewhat better for S’s allergies. He’s considering trying to get a 6 month lease instead of a 12 month one, but of course that means a higher rent. He’s also talking about us helping him move a mattress into wherever he plans to live, since the rental car we have right now has a backseat that folds down (unlike the car he’ll be driving from LA). He hopes the new landlord will store his mattress for the few weeks before he starts his lease.</p>
<p>Good luck to all the jobseekers! There ARE jobs out there and I’m sure with persistence you will find the ones that work for you!</p>
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<p>Always great to hear of success! Relief and excitement I hope.</p>
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<p>You never know whether not hearing means that you are out. Our son is
in the same position with one of his prospects. They said that they
wanted to decide last Friday but they’re a large company and I would
expect their HR department to notify those that weren’t selected.
The thing is to just keep working on applications and to not worry
about interviews - if an offer comes up, then you can celebrate.
Otherwise, just keep pressing on with applications.</p>
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<p>That’s for sure.</p>
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<p>You never know unless you know that someone is seated in the position.
I work at a large company and we have to get approvals all the way up
the management chain. If someone is out or on vacation, then the
requisition sits until that person gets back. Sometimes a hiring
freeze comes into play and all requisitions get frozen for an
indeterminate amount of time. In the meantime, keep looking for other
jobs.</p>
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<p>I’m sorry that you have such a tough home environment but you have the
means to show them that they were wrong about you and perhaps you can
eventually convince them that always living with a negative outlook
isn’t the best way to live and raise a family.</p>
<p>Son’s interview went well except for one particular area but they
appeared quite interested in him. The hiring manager sent him an
email afterwards. The opening was quite nice. The next section
could be interpreted in a few different ways. The last section said
that they would be getting back to him shortly. So it wasn’t yes
and it wasn’t no (unless the reader wished to interpret it that
way). So no clue on that one. He was quite interested in the work
that they talked to him about.</p>
<p>Still waiting on the interview from early last week.</p>
<p>Next interview on Wednesday.</p>
<p>Another recruiter called and emailed about a position. It might be the
same position that he is interviewing for on Wednesday as the
description seems similar. Recruiters are usually vague about
positions before getting the opportunity to submit resumes for it.</p>
<p>BCEagle,
I’m confused. Is your son accepting this job? Such a relief to have a bird in hand.</p>
<p>There’s no offer - it was just an email after the interviews that’s puzzling.</p>
<p>Emahee, I am so sorry that your parents are not supportive. I am glad you have found an outlet her in the Parent forum to get some support. You are doing the right things, and you will get there!</p>
<p>I agree with those who point out that hiring takes time. D called me yesterday, feeling a bit calmer, to tell me about some jobs for which she was applying. The unfortunate thing for her is that jobs in her field are very, very limited and often are not advertised. She knows very well that it may take time … so she is applying for other things she can do in the meantime. It’s tough, because she doesn’t want to go into a company wanting to leave; yet that is what she has to do to pay the bills. She can’t send out scores of resumes for jobs in her field simply because those jobs are not out there to apply for. It’s a waiting game. She did tell me that she realizes the job she interviewed for last week probably could not already be filled as interviews were still taking place on Thursday & Friday, and this is a large company (smaller branch office, but still large company). The hiring process is likely to take a bit of time. She also knows of a job opening that is unadvertised - her internship’s VP sent her resume to the employer last month - so I suggested she email the hiring manager to let them know that she is still interested if the job is still open & that she is immediately available.</p>
<p>Congratulations to all whose kids have been hired. That is an accomplishment!</p>
<p>D found out today that she did not get the job. I suggested she respond by asking them to keep her in mind for future openings. I have also offered a couple suggestions, but I did so by text. I know that she is probably falling apart right now, and she won’t want me to call … she will lose it. It’s important for her to handle this (she knows she can count on us, of course). </p>
<p>i used to think I’d be done with the parenting stuff at some point. Now I wonder if it ever really ends! :)</p>
<p>Kelsmom–No need to wonder. It never really ends. :)</p>
<p>kelsmom - I am sorry about your D’s news. I was just saying to H that I take our girls’ defeat harder than my own. We are never done with parenting. Hang in there.</p>
<p>Appointment letter in hand - effective June 19, my temporary ranger job with the Forest Service will be converted to a Student Career Experience Program position, meaning that I’ll have a guaranteed job next summer and, upon completion of my master’s degree in spring 2013, will be non-competitively appointed to the career civil service.</p>
<p>Very thankful to those who helped me get here - it is possible to find a job even in a bad market and with a major suffering massive layoffs (journalism). Be creative and willing to step outside the box - newspapers might be dying, but the skills and knowledge of innovative communications techniques are very much in demand. If you know how to leverage new media, you have a decided advantage in the market.</p>
<p>My mom and dad have been totally supportive in every way - morally, financially, spiritually - and parents, that makes all the diffference in the world.</p>
<p>Unsolicited email from a company recruiter today and they’re going to do a phone interview tomorrow. Their company also has a summer intern position which he hasn’t applied for as he has enough stuff in the pot. A bunch of other permanent and intern positions showed up in his email from his career center today too. I think that companies are starting to worry that they won’t have interns. It’s a really strange job market out there.</p>
<p>BCeagle-
Did your DS have his resume out on one of the major resume/job boards? How did this company recruiter find your s? Is your s working with a headhunter? How’d you link them up? In today’s economy, I am pleasantly surprised to hear that headhunters will work with recent grads. </p>
<p>Update on my ds’s time management challenge. So far it looks like the Chem E internship will work with him on the time he has available (though they just finished all the HR/inprocessing/drug testing/ID paperwork and today was the first real day in the lab with the project), and the clinical research opportunity (which is a continuation from last summer) will work with him. They don’t have a lot for him right now, and he can do some of what they need after hrs/on the weekend. Not sure how he is fitting his classes/labs into this mix! :eek:</p>
<p>BTW, congrats and nice post, polarscribe! Sorry for your dau, kelsmom. Something equal or better will come along, for sure. It just takes time</p>
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<p>It’s on two of the major boards and at his career center.</p>
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<p>Several headhunters have called. One hooked him up with the company
that he’s going to interview with tomorrow though he really doesn’t
want that job. Headhunters are flighty - they come and go; some want
your resume for a job and then you never hear from them again.</p>
<p>best thing I’ve heard all day</p>
<p>“My mom and dad have been totally supportive in every way - morally, financially, spiritually - and parents, that makes all the diffference in the world.”</p>
<p>^^^ Yes, lovely.</p>
<p>kelsmom… It never ends. I know because I have a step-D as old as some of the younger parents on this board (step-grandS started college same year as my S).</p>
<p>BCEagle… I have been in awe all along, but am just now asking… Isn’t this some kind of world record for # of recruiter contacts/interviews your S has had? Amazing. I am also in awe of his careful sifting through the various opportunities and passing on so many. In this scary job market, I’m sure I would have jumped on something long ago… even if not the best opportunity.</p>
<p>My D graduated May '10. She laid out a plan, which was to treat her job search as if it were the actual job. She counted out her money to calculate how long she could support herself from past earnings. She gave herself a hard deadline to get a job, before she would go the Starbucks or Macy’s route. She worked on resumes, job research and interviews with the same dedication as if it were her job. </p>
<p>Even then, it took her 4 months to find something in her field, which was term-limited project work, then got a full time job in her field 2 weeks after that project ended. It was hard and very, very stressful.</p>
<p>Our kids had a great deal of influence on getting admitted into certain universities by studying & working really hard in high school, and getting involved in certain ECs. They now suddenly find themselves trying to get jobs, and the decision of whether to hire them is largely out of their hands. There is not much they can do to manage the decision, and it’s scary for them.</p>
<p>It’s hard, it’s frightening, and it’s a lot of rejection. My heart goes out to them, and I wish each of them all the luck in the world. The only consolation is that, whether it’s a few weeks or a few months, they will get jobs. I just hope for their sakes, and yours, that it’s soon. All the best.</p>