<p>greekchat.com sucks, fratty.net and frathard.net were so much bettwe ;-)</p>
<p>Try frattysouth.net. GC is too PC.</p>
<p>How's the greek life at UNC-Chapel Hill and Duke?</p>
<p>Duke doesn't have houses for its Greeks although the men have wings of the dorms. UNC-CH Greeks own their houses on the perimeter of campus. Duke has deferred rush in January. UNC-CH has rush in the fall.</p>
<p>at state universities greek life is dead</p>
<p>Uhhh...define dead</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that I went to a state school and greek life wasn't dead there. Pretty much ran the school. Was the social scene dominated by greeks? no, you don't go to a school with 20000+ people and have a select group of people be the social directors for everyone. I can name at least 30 other state schools in which Greek life isn't dead at all.</p>
<p>In our state, the majority of the state schools have thriving, active Greek populations. Ditto with the private schools that are located within our state.</p>
<p>At places like San Francisco State University (or san jose state university) greek life is almost non existant.</p>
<p>The Greek houses across SJSU are pretty.... crappy from the outside and whatever I could see in through the window, at least for the ones that I passed by while driving.</p>
<p>"Yay for going to a school with no greek life!!"</p>
<p>Agreed, same here.</p>
<p>That's really close minded. To me, that's pretty much the same as saying, "Yay for going to a school with no GSA."</p>
<p>You don't have to be pro greek or even tolerate greeks, but that doesn't mean that your school's decision to prohibit everyone, no matter what their opinion of the greek system, from joining a sorority/frat isn't narrow minded. It's kind of the classic paradox of "enlightenment" in collegiate education, really. Liberals claim to be open minded and accepting of the viewpoints of others and then are shocked to find that there are people who don't have the same viewpoint as they do.</p>
<p>So I went through initiation on Sunday. I am officially an alpha chi omega!</p>
<p>Congrats to you! Come join us at <a href="http://www.greekchat.com%5B/url%5D">http://www.greekchat.com</a> !</p>
<p>half_baked, what is the connection with Greek Life and conservatism? You seem to be equating fraternities with conservatives and liberals with GSA.</p>
<p>Well I will be going to college next year, and pretty much have no idea about rushing, and gettings bids etc. Anyone care to explain?</p>
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half_baked, what is the connection with Greek Life and conservatism? You seem to be equating fraternities with conservatives and liberals with GSA.
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And that in itself makes no sense, since I am in a sorority in the most liberal spot in the reddest state in the country, and am also in the GSA, because half my friends are gay.</p>
<p>And to California-Bolt, I suggest waiting until you find out what school you will be going to, and then reading what their website has to say about rush, and/or contacting the people in charge of rush at your school. You will probably be able to find all you need.</p>
<p>Nope, I'm not essentializing political culture in any given organization or institution. The quote, however, is from William Buckney Jr. (i hope the spelling is correct), and it was in the context of liberalism in the United States. I'd like to remind people who are fans of the West Wing that when the president decided to describe the changes he wanted in the education policy as a "continuous revolution." He clearly wasn't a communist, nor was the person who wrote the speech for him, but a large portion of the episode revolved around the discussion of whether a quote commonly associated with communism had any place in a speech given by an american president. the point is, it was a quote that was in a certain context (ie, exporting communist ideology worldwide), and had to be given due credit and consideration with regards to the context that it was in.</p>
<p>I could have said "people claim to be open minded and accepting of the viewpoints of others and then are shocked to find that there are people who don't have the same viewpoint as they do." This would not only be a further dismemberment and bastardization of a quote that I've already admittedly only approximated, but it would also turn what is otherwise a witty and pertinent quote from an intellectual thinker into a crappy ad hom by an anonymous message board poster. And I chose the GSA to make the example because there seem to be a lot of people on this thread who are anti-greek, but I was making the point that being anti-greek is just as baseless and close minded as being against other very positive organizations that exist for various other kinds of community and outreach. While it seems almost socially exceptable to demonize the greek system, no one would consider demonizing a system that also has a very positive impact on society, but just much more overtly. The comparison, I think, is more about parallelism and less about political talking points.</p>
<p>I'll rush this spring.</p>