<p>yeh but PGs are usually only in a few sports... the better sports schools usually allow 10-15... usually somwhere around 5-7 football, 3-5 hockey, and sometimes a few random sports liek basketball or soccer. but PG is just for getting bigger and building muslce, so its mainly for sports liek football and hockey because they are contact sports.</p>
<p>Yah, I'm not a fan of PG's. I'm too small to play varsity (5'7"), but I know that they have automatic spots on all the sport teams. They prevent younger students from playing. Kind of annoying. Some of them get very old too. My sister knows some a guy at her BS that is 20. He repeated 9th and was a PG...</p>
<p>haha, thats nothing... every player on Choate Rosemary boys hockey repeated a year atleast.. 3 kids are 20 on the team lol... im lucky, im big, and my position doesnt have alotttt of competition.</p>
<p>They funny part is that the athletes are the ones that end up at the ivy league schools with full scholarships. Intelligence can only take you so far...</p>
<p>yeh, my sister was validictorian of a very good public school... she had a 5.05GPA! she had 800,700,690 SATs(not great, but not bad), and she got denied by princeton and dartmouth... mark gogland, the choate rosemary varsity boys hockey captain who can bearly say a sentence, he isnt dumb, but he isnt exactly ivey materiall, jus got practicxally a full ride to dartmouth. hes from indiana haha, i dont know hoiw they find these people</p>
<p>haha... where did your sister end up?</p>
<p>we30 - Real classy dissing a person by name who you probably don't even know that well. :( </p>
<p>And it is barely not bearly. ;)</p>
<p>my sister ended up at University of Chicago which is still an amazing school, but she was still disappointed. and sorry creative1, i type to fast and im careless when it comes to "blog typing" haha..</p>
<p>and for you information Creative1, Mark Gogland was my amp counselor for 3 years at a week long sleepover camp in Boston, him and his brother are both going to Dartmouth with much lower then qualified scores, but they are incredible at hockey, Mark(the younger brother) got accepted to Dartmouth Junior year and just got drafted to Boston Bruins.</p>
<p>we30....I think creative is saying you should exercise some discretion. How would you feel if someone was writing this kind of stuff about you in a public forum? Nice compliment about athletic ability; but an insult about academic.</p>
<p>The anecdote goes to show, however, that grades and stats are only a portion of the picture, even at Ivies.</p>
<p>Yeah. If you're an amazing athlete, you can get in at the ivies being only moderately intelligent.</p>
<p>yeh, hes not comletely incompitent, but he definately doesnt have scores even close to any ivies, i just think its unfair that my sister went to bed at 12am and woke up at 4 to do homework and study everyday just to get denied over some kid who just plays hockey all day. she was also the captain of the girls varsity hockey team and she didnt get into 1 ivy</p>
<p>Thats just how it is man. My bro worked his butt off...he got into Cornell and Dartmouth. But he chose Duke cuz its better, and he wasn't a recruited athlete or anything. If you have what their looking for you'll get in. Its not all about sports.</p>
<p>My cousin played varsity football at Deerfield as a freshman. He was also team captain as a freshman. He went to Dartmouth.</p>
<p>i think it was my sisters SAT scores... M800, V700, W690.. i dont think thats good enough, only 2190</p>
<p>It's really not all about sports....or stats. They reject thousands every year with perfect stats. There's only room for so many, you know. And if that's all you have....excellent grades and test scores....then there's nothing to distinguish you. HS Varsity doesn't count for much unless you are a recruitable impact player at the DI level. And that is probably not the case if HS was all you played.</p>
<p>we30, those are incredible scores. You can go ANYWHERE with scores like that. The average SAT at columbia is only ~2150. UChicago is an incredible schoool! My sister will probably end up with a 2100. Even the best boarding schools in the coutry have SAT scores <2100.</p>
<p>Some aspects of of an application are simply out of your control...</p>
<p>yeh, and -keyleme-... she was really small... she was just as good as all the D1 college girls but they kicked her off for size.... she played tier 1 girls hockey for a national championship team (CT polarbears).. they constantly competed in national championships with Assabet Valley.</p>
<p>I wasn't insinuating she wasn't good...how would I know? Just saying she would have to have been considered recruitable for athletics to make any difference in her app. There are just so many thousands of desirable applicants to these (and many other schools as well); it must come done to drawing straws.</p>
<p>yeh, she enjoys U of C though</p>