StageDoorManor

<p>There is ONE audition when you get to camp. As mentioned, there is no cabaret audition. After the set of auditions, the shows are cast, no callbacks. I think one time ever, I knew when a couple kids had to do a callback as if they were figuring out amongst them who would be lead in which show (this handful were leads in shows that session but had this one time they had to go back, my D was one, but that was the only time I had heard of that so it is not the common thing). AFTER this point, and shows are cast, there is a callback list for cabaret for kids being considered ( based on the original auditions that ALL campers do) for OPEN cabaret slots (not filled by returning cast members). Not all those called back make it in. Those previously in cabaret, do not do cabaret callbacks. </p>

<p>Often times, they do send a press release to your hometown paper that your child is attending SDM and there is a blurb (like publicity) about what the program is, and it might say what show your child is in. Or you could just submit your own article to the hometown paper. But I do think they release one as I have seen it in our paper when I have not submitted it myself. That is how it got there, I am sure.</p>

<p>I see..so all potential newbies to cabaret (after tryouts) would be on call back list? Or do some newbies get in right away and not do call backs?</p>

<p>D. is excited but she is so busy, that she hasnt had a lot of time to think about it - she is in drivers ed, going away to the ocean Friday and then will have 2 days when she gets back to pack and go to SDM...
Should be a wonderful experience!</p>

<p>If you think of any other clothes or items that would come in handy please let me know.
Thanks for the terrific advise. I ordered the labels so I will be doing lots o ironing pretty soon!</p>

<p>BTW if kids are called back to reaudition for cabaret..are they given a song? or do they use same song?</p>

<p>Angstridden what song did your daughter pick btw?</p>

<p>Hi Defying..I will let you know after she auditions. Even though its not necessary she likes to try to sing something that not a lot of folks will likely be doing..so she would prefer I didnt share till after.</p>

<p>As far as the auditions go..my D. has been taking voice and in competitions, shows etc since she was really young. She is really comfy singing anywhere anytime. Loves it. And the key is really just doing it, like Susan said.
I would gather round your family and friends and sing the song you selected as often as you can till you are comfortable with it.</p>

<p>OK packing question..what is the best way to tote stuff to the room..crates or garbage bags or what? Ideas?</p>

<p>Angst, I'll try to answer the last few questions but please do consolidate them into one post if you can and also do ask on the SDM forum or at the office, and prepare a list before you call. I honestly am behind on some things but don't want to keep you in the lurch since you are asking and I do have a kid who attends. </p>

<p>With Cabaret....if someone is considered for an open slot, I believe they WILL be called to the Cabaret callback and not just put in without a callback. That is the process. Remember when you talk of newbies in Cabaret, they are newbies TO cabaret, not necessarily new to Stagedoor. I am not sure the answer to your question as to whether they sing a new song at callbacks for cabaret or the same one they auditioned with initially for casting, because honestly, my kid got into the Cabaret cast the summer of '98 and I would not recall now nor have any recent experience. This is a good question for the SDM forum. My educated guess is that the kid would sing their same original audition song, as many kids just prepared and brought one audition song but I do not know for sure. </p>

<p>It concerns me that we are talking so much about Our Time Cabaret because if a kid does not get in, it does NOT mean he/she is not talented enough or not as good as those IN cabaret. I have no doubt that there are some kids NOT in Cabaret that are as good or even more talented than some IN it. It is similar to selective college admissions where as you must be aware, there are too many talented kids than the number that can be admitted. So, the way I would approach this, for any camper, particularly for a new camper, is to downplay cabaret and if she gets in, it is like an extra prize or surprise but not expected. I know you mentioned you don't expect it but we are talking lots about the nitty gritty of the process. Cabaret is a small part of SDM. </p>

<p>I see SDM as one part an opportunity to do a high level production in an intense atmosphere (16 days to get the show ready) with professional staff, a chance to take a variety of classes hitting upon different skills in theater (some which may not be available at home but if they are, a chance to work with a different teacher to gain a different experience), and lastly a chance to be immersed in a culture of other youth who are as passionate about theater as you are (this last part is huge, if you want my opinion). Does my kid love cabaret? Sure. It has been part of her experience every year for 8 years. It is just another thing she is a part of, that is all. It has lost some of its luster now that they no longer perform at resort nightclubs like she did many many times in the past. As I said before, think of it as the varsity and working your way toward it. Few make varsity as a freshman but some do. Some play on JV for a bit and earn their spot on varsity. I see OTC a lot like that. Go to SDM for the three things I mentioned and if cabaret happens, it is just the icing. </p>

<p>Frankly, for those in cabaret and a musical, particularly if a big part in a musical, it can be a lot of pressure to learn two shows in a short amount of time. One reason that they keep old cast members to cabaret is that it would be particularly difficult to teach the entire show (about 40 numbers) to everyone from scratch (plus in the past they had only 11 days from the time the cast list went up until the first hotel show....though now they do not have rehearsals for cabaret during tech week so it is still a lot in a little time). The way they do it is to have veteran cabaret cast who know the show, can help others and others can fall into place. There are numerous solos as well and just too much to teach with all else going on. I have known of a few brand new kids who made it into cabaret their very first session, AS WELL as gotten a lead in a musical, and have declined the chance to be in Cabaret because it is learning sooooo much in too short a time. A lead must learn numerous lines and songs and it is not like this is all he/she is doing cause there are classes too. It is very condensed. I know my child said she had so much to learn in a short time to do the role of Lucy that she is using any free moments to work on it. But she already knows the Cabaret though there are variations each year for her to learn. It is understandable that often someone cast in Cabaret has at least been there for a session previously because then they know the kid's work ethic and can trust they can handle it cause it is a lot of work to learn two shows at once. It's more pressure. You have to want the intensity. </p>

<p>The cast of cabaret is primarily made up of 13-18 year olds. Sometimes, they have about two twelve year olds in it. It used to be that the 12 year old girl and the 12 year old boy had an adorable duet of Somewhere That's Green. It was kinda the "oh, that is SO cute" number. My child got in her first summer when she was just 9 1/2 (and I have not seen someone this young in it any other time) but it was her second session of the summer (she went second and third sessions back then). They must have felt she could handle it as she'd been in a musical there the previous session and they observed her work ethic, is my feeling. Through about age 12, she was the still the youngest girl in Cabaret and usually did this duet and then in what is called the "audition sequence" of the show, she was the "Annie" girl solo. One boy she did the duet with for a couple years back then, was two years older than her and is now at Juilliard. It was a running joke for us about when would she outgrow the youngest kid in cabaret role (this duet and also singing Tomorrow) cause she was in those slots for like seven casts there. Finally, at age 12, I think it was, she got to take over this large solo that a very talented girl now at UMichigan had as her solo slot and it felt like an honor to get this spot after that girl moved on. Kids kinda pass the torch there. It was quite a contrast from the "kiddie" duet or singing Tomorrow, LOL cause she then was singing this moving more adult song, Brother Can You Spare a Dime. That was her solo for many years but that solo has now been taken out of Cabaret (new director replaced 25 year Cabaret director) and been replaced by a song from Jacques Brel called Carousels which she has sung for many cabarets since. That likely is her main solo this time again, dunno. I heard but am not sure, that might be in the Stagedoor movie too but it is not like I have ever seen it, her neither! </p>

<p>The question on how to get the stuff to the room......you are in luck. The first day of each new session, it is kinda like drop off at college for freshmen cause there is plenty of staff waiting to unload your car for you. I drove up last week with TWO kids (my kid and my niece who lives in Alaska, a new camper) and LOTS of stuff and the staff unloaded my packed SUV entirely and I just stood there saying which item went to which number room. They carried it up all the flights of stairs to Main 3 (where your D will be living) and delivered it to the girls' rooms. This went quick as the car must then be moved...just like college drop off. We did not use garbage bags or crates but you can use whatever you want. Just think about your older D who went to college last year, and it is a lot like that. Use intuition. There is no right/wrong here. There I was with my muddy SUV from VT next to a limo with some other kid who drove up, seriously. I've seen it all. Some summers, someone famous has kids at camp. Ya never know. For instance, while my kid has gone, these have include Bruce Willis, Joan Lunden, Ron Howard, Richard Dreyfuss, Lucie Arnez. </p>

<p>So, I hope that covers it and I hope if you get a list of any more things that come up, that you might ask over on the SDM because the campers there likely know way more than me! I'm simply at home, NOT there!
Susan</p>

<p>Wow Susan your daughter msut be amazlingly talented! Wow was in the limo btw jsut out of curiousity. Has your daugher ever been on Broadway? Also I heard they take the kids to the movies the first night every session at camp? Is that true? Also are there alot of "couples" at camp?</p>

<p>Defying Gravity, my D is not unlike most kids or kids of parents on this forum, just loves musical theater. My daughter has never been on Broadway, NOPE! She has auditioned on Broadway and she has performed in several different states. She is a nobody ! However, there are usually a handful of kids at camp who have been on Broadway but my kid is not one of them. She is from a dirt road in the country and nobody has ever heard of her. She is just an ordinary kid. Maybe some day.....</p>

<p>I have no clue who was in the limo and I doubt it was anyone famous but merely someone with "dough". I have seen people arrive by limo before. Perhaps a family flew into NYC and brought their kid to camp and hired a driver, I have no clue. There are all types at camp and none of it matters once it begins cause everyone has a common bond, the love of theater. It becomes unimportant who has what. It might come up but likely not as much as at home cause everyone is just at camp and in the same "boat". </p>

<p>The past two years, they have taken everyone to the movies on the first Tuesday (second day) while they perhaps are having final meetings to do casting. I liked it more in the past when the started rehearsing that day. Or perhaps they could start classes but instead, the real program seems to get much more underway on Wednesday. When you go, don't judge the experience until the pattern gets going which is not until Wednesday. </p>

<p>I don't think there are a lot of "couples" at camp but there are some. I mean it is camp and there are teenagers there! Most kids are just very close, both boys and girls. My D has some very close male friends at camp. She has had a boyfriend at camp whom she has known for 8 years and they were dating last summer the whole time but they started dating during the winter (they started going together in Florida and sometimes saw one another at his house in Philadelphia or ours in Vermont). They are actually going to the same college program next fall and remain very close. He is not at camp for the first time this summer. Right now, her boyfriend from home is at camp so she is again a "couple" at camp. However, the days are filled with rehearsing and classes and so this does not "take over" your time there. I would say the majority of campers are not couples. Though, admittedly, last summer, several of my D's roomies were also dating boys at camp and like my D, arranged to see one another during the winters, though LOTS of states and miles apart. It is the long distance thing! Believe me, if you are not in a couple at camp, you are in the clear majority, I'm sure. There simply are not enough boys to go around, LOL. And not all of them date girls either.
Susan</p>

<p>Hi -- I just found this board by accident, and my 12 yo daughter is at SDM too. This is her third year. Last two years she was the lead in the "kiddie" show and this year she is thrilled to be in an older kid show, "Working!" She is Delores the Waitress and has a solo and a dance, so she is thrilled.</p>

<p>She auditioned for OTC all three years and had a cb all three years, but has not made it yet. She said there are no 12 yo's in OTC this session. She is fine with not getting it, but I know she really wanted to. </p>

<p>Anyway, cool to find this site to talk to other parents who have kids there or are going.</p>

<p>Hey, glad you found this. If your D had a callback each year for OTC, that bodes well for her getting in eventually. Usually, you gotta be over 13 and occasionally they let in one or two 12 year olds. I know I said my D has been in it since age 9 but really the cast is all teens so I have a feeling your D is next in line :D. I can totally relate to your D's situation of being a lead in the "kiddie" show and how it feels to finally get to do an older kid's show because my D felt the same way at that age and almost preferred the older kids' shows to the leads she was getting in younger shows. Sometimes at SDM, it is the SHOW you get into, not just the part you might get, that kids care about. </p>

<p>I hope to catch Working because my D's boyfriend from home is in it. Your D must know him. Matt (from VT)....he is almost 17. I'll look for your D as Delores in Working and maybe you can catch Jekyll and Hyde (my D is Lucy). They play at opposite times.</p>

<p>I will ask my daughter if she knows Matt. I am sure she does. I had never heard of Working before, but I know that my daughter is thrilled to be out of the "kiddie show" this year...not that it's bad or anything, but that she wanted to be with the older, more serious kids. There aren't too many of the other shows that use kids as young as 12. They seem to use the teens for the "better" shows. But, she plans on going back again next year, so she'll get her chance.</p>

<p>By the way, have you ever heard of a summer theater program called Walnut Hill in MA? The program itself seems similar to Stagedoor, but it is 5 weeks long and they live in the school dorms as opposed to "hotel" type at SDM.</p>

<p>"Angst, I'll try to answer the last few questions but please do consolidate them into one post if you can and also do ask on the SDM forum or at the office, and prepare a list before you call. I honestly am behind on some things but don't want to keep you in the lurch since you are asking and I do have a kid who attends. "</p>

<p>Susan..you are fabulous about answering questions...but
please, do not feel you have to answer my questions. There are other kids and parents here who are happy to chime in....and I know you are super busy! I am not offended if a question goes unaswered. I do like to ask my questions here as I feel I get the best answers from everyone.....</p>

<p>I think I';ved almost decided my audition song. Its between a few songs from Chicago and a few from Anything Goes.</p>

<p>angst --</p>

<p>I'm a long ago stagedoorian and thought I might be able to answer a couple questions. Although I definitely concur with Susan that Cabaret is not worth worrying about, just thought I could perhaps clear up some of your questions about callbacks...</p>

<p>I was at Stagedoor years ago, so I'm not sure if the process is still the same, and if it's not, my apologies -- but the way it used to work, was that campers do their initial audition with their sixteen bars and little scene, the Cabaret callback list goes up, including everyone who's been in Cabaret before and any new people they're considering, and that day, during class time, they have the callbacks.</p>

<p>Callbacks are group oriented, not individual -- they teach you two segments from the Cabaret show, one more singing-focused (that used to be "The World Goes Round" but I understand that song isn't even in the show anymore...so who knows) and one for dance/movement (used to be "What a Country" -- and that was so a sort of cabaret staple that I can't imagine they've changed it). Anyway, they teach these to you in the whole group of called back people (which includes people who've been in the show before and obviously know it incredibly well, so it's easy to pick it up), and then they put you up on stage in fairly small groups and have you perform the segments. And that's it. No more solo singing at all. </p>

<p>I think the basic understanding is that if you're called back for Cabraet, you have a pretty terrific voice (either that, or there's something else really really special about you OR you're kind of a Camp Person who's been there forever) and the callbacks are more about seeing how you get the "style" of the show (which is actually very specific in spirit), and how well you perform as a member of a group, and just how well you seem to "fit" doing this material. </p>

<p>Or something.</p>

<p>Granted, allllllll this could have changed completely -- my last "cabaret callbacks" were, oh god, like six years ago. I did however, sit through a bunch of them, because I was called back a couple times, and then, once in, I saw a few more. </p>

<p>They are NOT the type of thing you have to worry about or prepare for at all. IN fact, you really can't. All you can do is bring character shoes and have fun.</p>

<p>Oh I see they learn new material...thanks for sharing that!
How did you like SDM?</p>

<p>I'm sure all of you with kids attending session I have already seen the info on the performance weekend but for the rest of us that may be interested, go to the SDM website and you'll be able to click on a link to a PDF file that spells out the performance times and locations, directions to the camp, instructions on proper etiquette and decorum, and recommends some lodging and restaurants. How early should I be getting my D to camp on the first day? She'd be there at dawn if she had her way but I am assuming that 10 a.m. should be just fine.</p>

<p>Scogor, on the first day, getting there at 10 is just fine. Kids arrive all morning and the program officially begins around 1 PM and parents need to leave by then. Kids arriving by plane come later in the day as staff picks them up in Newark. But kids by car arrive by noon usually. I usually pull up to camp at 10:30 AM which is a pretty good time....some have arrived before then but perhaps it is slightly before the crunch. They have staff who will help unload your car quickly and deliver everything to the child's room and then you must move the car. I help get my kid set up in her room and she is anxious for me to leave. I'm usually done by noon. I have to do half the journey to camp the day before because of the distance....it is five hours from home and my in-laws live at the halfway point so we spend the night there and then I drive the whole five hours back after I unpack my daughter. </p>

<p>I think the session is going great and my kid is having a wonderful time. Tonight is the dance show and she is happy as her Dance Master Class is dancing to a number from Movin' Out which is a show she has loved on Broadway and she has choreographed some numbers from it in the past for cabarets she has directed. She is enjoying getting to partner with a boy which she never does at our dance studio cause no boys take dance there! And this is her first time performing in dance since her accident so yay! Never expected her to dance at SDM this summer. </p>

<p>I'm going to be down there again on the camp's 30th anniversary celebration at Kutsher's to see the show, etc. I just won't know who your D is! The cabaret is performing an excerpt and she says since she was in this year's cabaret, she will still be blocked into it and be able to perform with the second session cabaret at Kutschers. </p>

<p>Your daughter has much to look forward to. Just so you know that new kids become "hooked" very quickly (no matter WHAT part they get in a show)....my D told me today that her sixteen year old cousin who is there for her very first time, all the way from Alaska, is begging to stay three more weeks but I know she won't be able to but that just goes to show how much a kid can love it very quickly, and no matter how she was cast or what she got "into". I hope the same for your daughter! And you will have to fill me in on all the news from second session. </p>

<p>I think next weekend, I likely will watch Jekyll and Hyde (twice), Cabaret (the musical), Working, The Crucible, and the Our Time Cabaret. I know my D is assigned to watch Crazy for You. I wish I could see them all! </p>

<p>Anna....thanks for your post because feedback from a young person who actually WENT to SDM (unlike ME!!) is best and I did not even know exactly what they did in Cabaret callbacks because not only don't I go there but my D did that back in 1998. It makes sense what you said they do because they get to see how quickly you can pick up the material because it is such a fast paced show that is put together in so little time. My daughter is singing Carousels again. I'll tell you (cause no new person reading this would understand the significance) but my D told me today that she got the solo of "Our Time" at the end of the show and she has never had that and I think it has been a secret wish to do it at least once, particularly in her in "parting" performance that last night, as this is her 15th cast of OTC! And that song, as you know, holds SO much meaning. I know you know what I mean...and she has turned into a Sondheim freak like you too. "Me and you, pal, me and you....." (if you can believe it, she still has the same baby "headshot" she used back in 1998.....though some performances I have been at, she could not find it and was holding up a picture of some other baby! but she still has the original I sent her in 1998 now in OTC)</p>

<p>Susan</p>

<p>I can not wait until next Friday when we get to see the shows!! My daughter has not called home since Thursday, and I don't like that, but she must be having a good time!! She sounded VERY happy when I spoke to her last...she said she was a "little" bit homesick, but quickly said, "but this is my 3rd year," trying to assure me she's a "big girl" at 12!! I can't wait. I wish you all luck if it's your first time. You will LOVE it there. I have been looking at other camps for her to try next year, but she is insistent that she wants Stagedoor only!!!</p>

<p>Thanks Scogor..I didnt realize they listed this on the site. I will look when my D. goes..Geez thats in just about a week! We are going up Sunday and spending the night. I just bought her a itty bitty book light and am debating if I should get the big bathroom tote ..I figure with 6 girls there is too much stuff to put in the bathroom for each one. So a tote might be nice..but they are huge. Thoughts?
Was shocked we got our name labels to iron on already..thanks for the tip Susan!
She is at OC this week so we will be madly packing when she gets back.
I cant wait for her to have this wonderful experience!</p>

<p>BTW Stagedoor should start paying Susan a commission..We never would have heard about it without this list and her enthusiasm!</p>