I’m a bit confused about why this matters only a week after the results came out. I’m sure they will release the information after RD has been completed. Why is this an important issue?
SAY, It doesn’t matter except to a small number of people obsessed with these numbers and a few who have some sort of agenda. The numbers will be transparent with the Common Data Set and will be revised after the summer melt.
UCLA received more than 100,000 apps.
http://www.refinery29.com/2016/12/133591/ucla-record-freshman-applications
The biggest change in college admission is the ED2. The top students would be panic if they did not get in early at top schools, so they may try to lock themselves in ED2.
Not sure if it is good for the students with better stats. At least the wait time is short.
The growing list of ED2 schools:
American University
Bates College
Bennington College
Bowdoin College
Brandeis University
Bryant University
Bryn Mawr College
Bucknell University
Carleton College
Claremont McKenna Colleges
Colby College
Colgate University
College of the Atlantic
College of Wooster
Colorado College
Connecticut College
Davidson College
Denison College
Dickinson College
Emory University
Franklin & Marshall College
George Washington University
Gettysburg College
Grinnell College
Hamilton College
Hampshire College
Harvey Mudd College
Juniata College
Kenyon College
Lehigh University
Macalester College
Middlebury College
New York University
Oberlin College
Occidental College
Pomona College
Reed College
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Rhodes College
Saint Olaf College
Sarah Lawrence College
Scripps College
Sewanee: The University of the South
Skidmore College
Smith College
Swarthmore College
Tufts University
University of Chicago
University of Richmond
University of Rochester
Vanderbilt University
Vassar College
Washington and Lee University
Wesleyan University
Whitman College
What is ED2?
Also re: UCLA I believe it was 120,000+ apps last year but perhaps that number counted upperclass xfer applicants too?
Crazy!
Schools have 2nd ED in Jan.
ED2 could be the biggest threat to HYPSM as their applicants could be locked by ED2 schools.
Yes ED2 is an interesting wrinkle. Stanford and HYP have also experimented to some degree with ED vs EA vs no early option, e.g. Stanford had ED at one time.
^^ they conclued that SCEA or REA would be the best options when no applicants ED other schools. So, this ED2 could be a hugh headache for stanford during RD when they decide on an applicant without any knowledge about his/her other school’s ED status.
That’s an interesting point. The one that jumps out at me on that list is University of Chicago, where I believe ED2 is new this year and which is a high demand school, though a notch below Stanford and HYP in the choices most cross admits make.
Now, head to head Stanford probably gets a very high percentage of RD cross admits with Chicago, but there might be some who think they have a better shot with ED2 and so apply to Chicago and have to go there if admitted. Which is probably why Chicago introduced it.
But then, Stanford could modify how it handles early admissions if that starts happening too much, just as it has tried various approaches in the past.
So ED2 means you HAVE to go. Binding? That is so weird. How could you pull that off when everyone’s deadlines are Jan 1st or so.
@kath00 ED2 apps are generally due around 1/1 and they come back 2/15. A lot of kids like to try to better their chances with an ED. Many kids do not get accepted to ED1 schools and try again or were still perfecting apps or were just not ready to make a binding decision earlier.
Admission offices move these apps to head of pile to be read first. Kids love the boosted chances and knowing earlier than March. It’s win-win.
That makes sense. So are they limited to 1 school for ED2? Otherwise they are “wasting space” at the 10 other schools they apply to regular admission, right? It seems like there should be a unified plan for all these schools. LOL. Times have changed. When I was applying, Stanford had no early admission. Harvard did but VERY few people did early admit anywhere.
Now it seems that every single kid applies to at least one school early (judging from what my DD tells me). That makes sense since it is at the exclusion of other schools, where it is ED or REA. So maybe we need “waves” of admission…
- ED or REA to your TOP, get back Dec 15th
- ED2 or REA2 due Jan 1st ,based on your results to #1 above, to a second dream school, get back Feb 15th
- Regular admit but with due date AFTER Feb 15th? So people aren’t withdrawing right and left…
Who knows. This just strikes me as a mess with admissions people trying their best to read 60,000 apps and then a bunch of the same top kids get in everywhere, schools fight for them, and they withdraw because they got in REA already anyway… Waste!
For ED2 schools, it is like the “insider trading” except not much of punishment.
Chicago’s yield last year was 63%, and they never released EA info. So theoretically they can ED/ED2 all the applicants without taking anyone from RD, and they may not disclose any info about this. The only way that we can tell is to look at class of 2021 profile when they release it.
The best way for stanford to avoid admitting those ED2 applicants is to check their schools about the ED2 status before making any decisions on them. For a few thousands of likeable admits, that is possible.
The largest cross admit pool chicago has should be with yale and harvard, then princeton, stanford and mit in that order.
I meant that they can use ED/ED2 to admit the entire class without admitting students from RD.