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<p>Proofs?</p>
<p>Why didn’t you check what Harvard was doing:</p>
<p>[The</a> Admissions Office Needs Your Help?Now and in the Future! | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson](<a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/4/13/students-harvard-hope-many/]The”>http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/4/13/students-harvard-hope-many/)</p>
<p>Isn’t Harvard’s name enough? Or the only thing left is its name? :)</p>
<p>Will the Stanford students do the same thing?</p>
<p>@Doss12, Quote:
Most of the people offering advice either have an axe to grind or they are one of the students hired by Undergraduate Admissions to say good things.</p>
<p>@ewho, Quote:
Proofs?
Why didn’t you check what Harvard was doing:
The Admissions Office Needs Your Help?Now and in the Future!
Isn’t Harvard’s name enough? Or the only thing left is its name?
Will the Stanford students do the same thing?</p>
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<p>I have friends who have been hired to post messages. Stanford looks at it the same as hiring students as tour guides or as staff for Admit Weekend, Orientation, Parents Weekend, Alumni Reunion Weekend, etc.</p>
<p>And then look at some of the posts and their authors. Specifically look at the posts by users advocating for Stanford. Notice how many of their responses parrot official responses/arguments used by the University. And not just on one or two issues. But on a wide variety of issues that are often raised by admits and their families. And finally look at the volume of of posts. Hundreds and in some cases thousands of posts. What Stanford student leads such a sad life that they have nothing better to do than to post thousands of messages on CC, let alone learn all the official responses to issues admits usually raise.</p>
<p>Same goes for supposed parents. I just saw a post from someone who claims to be someone’s mom. She has posted over 1200 messages since 2007. Whose mother would stay registered on CC for four years let alone post 1200 times?</p>
<p>And yes, I know that other colleges do the same. My warning to the OP was just to make sure that s/he realized the source of many posts here. College Admissions offices look at CC as another marketing pipeline. Users shouldn’t assume they are reading posts from current students or recent alums.</p>
<p>As for users with an axe to grind, just look at this thread.</p>
<p>And Doss, I have friends who would aver that you are full of cr*p. Stanford doesn’t hire people to participate here, and unlike lots of other colleges, they don’t send an official admissions person to post here either. Apparently they either have little interest in this site (and I’m beginning to see why, if that’s the case, given the very high BS quotient on it) or they believe that the students who take the time to post here in an effort to help prospective students learn about Stanford are doing a good job as it is. I do agree that people with axes to grind come to these forums, and that can be a big drag, but they are pretty easy to identify for the most part.</p>
<p>Doss12 - There are a lot of parents here who support their school or their kids school.
I guess they have made friends and decided to stick around and make it their facebook. I dont see any reason you need to suspect everyone’s intentions on why they need to be here? If they have an overt bias, it comes across clearly and they dont need to be hired by the schools to pretend to be someone’s parent. However, there does seem to be a balance when half the people say one thing and the other half another thing, OP can sort it out and say there is no consensus decision here and it is all upto me?</p>
<p>hi is it possible for you to share how you got in? like your SAT grades and probably extracurriculars and stuff. i am an international student too and i feel so desperate. thank you :D</p>
<p>Princeton is great for literature and humanities. Stanford is great for sciences/engineering. Again, both are great schools but I have seen the kids who are into literature chose princeton over Stanford. My cousin went to Princeton and a friend is at Stanford. In the end, you blend in anywhere…but I think Princeton’s Fin Aid is better than Stanford (at least that is what it worked out for my cousin). GPA wise, Princeton is tougher…again just basing it on heresay. I’d lean to Princeton for your humanities interest.</p>
<p>Oops …just realized I posted to last year’s post.It would be good if people not bump up old threads and create a new thread for new questions (kelsyshanes).</p>
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<p>Actually, Stanford is ranked in the top 5 across all broad disciplines and nearly always ahead of Princeton: humanities, arts, social sciences, natural sciences, engineering, and health sciences. Stanford always outranks Princeton in the humanities. For example, most recently Stanford came in #1 in the world for humanities, ahead of even Harvard.</p>
<p>[Top</a> Universities for Arts & Humanities 2011-2012](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/arts-and-humanities.html]Top”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/arts-and-humanities.html)</p>
<p>In English lit and comp lit, the two are pretty much identical:</p>
<p>[NRC</a> Rankings Overview: English Language and Literature - Faculty - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“http://chronicle.com/article/NRC-Rankings-Overview-English/124728/]NRC”>http://chronicle.com/article/NRC-Rankings-Overview-English/124728/)
[NRC</a> Rankings Overview: Comparative Literature - Faculty - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“http://chronicle.com/article/NRC-Rankings-Overview-/124718/]NRC”>http://chronicle.com/article/NRC-Rankings-Overview-/124718/)
[Best</a> English Programs | Top Humanities Schools | US News Best Graduate Schools](<a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/english-rankings]Best”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/english-rankings)</p>
<p>Also, regarding GPA, Princeton isn’t much different - since it instituted its grade deflation, its average GPA has gone down from 3.46 to 3.39, not really different. Stanford hasn’t released average GPA info in a long time, but I imagine that the two are about the same.</p>
<p>phantasmagoric is correct–the humanities at Stanford are really superb. In particular I have been thrilled with the depth and quality of the philosophy department, which is amazing. (I have legacy at Princeton, btw, and Princeton also has a great philosophy department, but Stanford’s is comparably wonderful.) Stanford maintains academic excellence across the board, even though its tech/engineering get more media attention, and thus shape public perception of the school’s strengths. It’s easier to grab the media spotlight with stories about amazing inventions and tech titans than by talking about humanities colloquia, after all. ; )</p>
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<p>USNWR Graduate School Ranking Social Sciences and Humanties</p>
<p>Economics
1. Princeton
5. Stanford</p>
<p>English
2. Stanford
7. Princeton</p>
<p>History
1. Princeton
<p>Political Science
1. Princeton
<p>Psychology
<p>Sociology
3. Princeton
5. Stanford</p>
<p>so the above doesn’t exactly show that Stanford always outranks Princeton in the Humanities, does it?</p>
<p>if anything, it is a close race, very close</p>
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<p>NRC Graduate School Rankings Arts and Humanities major programs</p>
<p>Classics
<p>Comparative Literature
2. Princeton
3. Stanford</p>
<p>English Language and Literature
2. Princeton
3. Stanford</p>
<p>French
3. Princeton
4. Stanford</p>
<p>German
12. Stanford
15. Princeton</p>
<p>History
1. Princeton
6. Stanford</p>
<p>History of Art, Architecture, and Archaeology
7. Princeton
24. Stanford</p>
<p>Music
8. Princeton
25. Stanford</p>
<p>Philosophy
1. Princeton
9. Stanford</p>
<p>Religion
3. Princeton
19. Stanford</p>
<p>Spanish
13. Stanford
18. Princeton</p>
<p>so the above doesn’t exactly show that Stanford always outranks Princeton in the Arts and Humanities, does it?</p>
<p>if anything, it is Princeton that almost always outranks Stanford in the Arts and Humanities</p>
<p>Just got into HYPS (and all others).
I’m going to Princeton. I felt a stronger sense of community and don’t like Stanford’s emphasis on sports.</p>
<p>For one, you are misinterpreting the intent of that statement. I was replying to the statement “Princeton is great for literature and humanities,” in contrast to Stanford’s strength in science/engineering. Stanford usually ranks ahead of Princeton in humanities taken as a whole.</p>
<p>Also, the “NRC rankings” that you’re citing are your own, not the real NRC rankings, which are ranges in two separate ratings. And of all the US News rankings you point out, only two are humanities.</p>
<p>JamieBrown, why are you still trolling these boards waiting to pounce so you can proclaim Princeton’s greatness? We know it’s great. There’s no need to try to one-up other posters constantly.</p>
<p>^^^^ so phanta, when you very specifically stated that Stanford always outranks Princeton in the humanities, what exactly did you mean?..because obviously you were completely and absolutely WRONG.</p>
<p>@JamieBrown et. al.</p>
<p>I’m going to jump to phantasmagoric’s defense here: He isn’t ABSOLUTELY wrong, because the strength of the humanities departments at Stanford are, taken together, stronger than those at Princeton. [Top</a> Universities for Arts & Humanities 2011-2012](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/arts-and-humanities.html]Top”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/arts-and-humanities.html)</p>
<p>It’s not that one individual department is better than another. Their <em>total</em> strength at Stanford is better than at Princeton, despite individual differences in departments.</p>
<p>As a recent cross-admit between Stanford and Princeton, I’m definitely leaning toward Stanford because of the aggregate strength of their humanities programs (in addition to a range of other factors).</p>