<p>The statistics for the incoming class for Fall "09 were lower than I expected. Have a look.
Class</a> of 2013, faculty achievements presented to trustees What does everyone else think?</p>
<p>What did you expect? Was it much different from last year?</p>
<p>Admissions/Retention: Over 22,000 students applied to the University of Delaware for Fall 2008 enrollment. 3,863 (29.1%) first-time freshmen accepted their admission offers. Average SAT score (critical reading plus mathematics) for first-time Newark Campus freshmen was 1200. On average, 91% of Newark Campus freshmen return for their sophomore year and more than 3 out of 4 students graduate within five years.</p>
<p>Here are 2008 statistics:</p>
<p>[Class</a> of 2008 applications set new record](<a href=“http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2004/apps052804.html]Class”>Class of 2008 applications set new record)
The average out-of-state enrollee will arrive at UD having graduated among the top 16 percent of his or her high school class, with an SAT of 1221, up from 1155 just five years ago.</p>
<p>High-ability students</p>
<p>Hirsh said that the average honors enrollee will have graduated from high school in the top 5 percent of his or her class and will come to UD with an average SAT of 1363 and a 3.94 GPA.</p>
<p>Among the high-ability applicants who are not enrolled in the Honors Program at UD, more than 30 percent have SATs of 1400-1490, and more than 50 percent of incoming students not in an honors program have SATs in the 1300-1390 range.</p>
<p>“This suggests that UD is very attractive to high-ability students, whether or not they are interested in participating in the Honors Program,” Hirsh said. “I believe this has a lot to do with the signature features of a UD education that include freshman entry programs such as LIFE [Learning Integrated Freshman Experience], Study Abroad, Undergraduate Research and Service Learning.”</p>
<p>One has to read the U of Delaware pledge to state residents, that changes admission data. The GPA is core only, no weight. Don’t see a problem</p>
<p>I was there last Saturday for the tour and information session, and I thought they said that they were higher than that. Maybe we should have stuck with BU. Of course, can you believe what any school says in their presentation, because they are trying to sell you on their school and propably fluff things up a bit. Were the SAT scores based on 1600 or 2400?</p>
<p>I think the statistics are very good,but I dont think they are as important as you think.Some schools play games like not counting an SAT part for foreign students.Also some high schools use a 5.0 scale and some schools don’t make the adjustment on the GPA.Be careful when you look at the stats. I think UD is well above average unless you compare it to some of the near Ivy schools like Duke Michigan Emory Wash U etc…but we all knew UD was not on that level.</p>
<p>BC, am I reading negativity into your posts? If that is not your intention, I apologize. DD turned down a big merit award at BU to come to UD. That said, they are entirely different schools offering very different experiences.
Why? Because the stats weren’t what you expected? In what way? It’s not that there was some huge drop from the previous year, they were improved. Your daughter wants UD, was fortunate to get off the waitlist. Are you concerned that your family/friends don’t think UD is prestigious enough compared to BU? I suppose it says something that she got into BU but was waitlisted at UD. It is harder for an OOS student to get into UD, you should be bragging about that 
And yes, as Samiamy pointed out, the SAT scores are passed on 1200 (math and reading)</p>
<p>It’s actually easier for OOS students to get into UD: The classes are only comprised of 1/3 of state residents each year, and of them a little less than half are put into the parallel program at DelTech.</p>
<p>I remember seeing it somewhere in previous years where they showed the SATs and GPAs were higher for OOS. Not that it matters but you’ve given boringchapel an additional reason to be less than thrilled with her child’s choice of Delaware.</p>
<p>I think I am missing something…where is the average SAT for 2013 stated in the article? I feel stupid, I can’t find it.</p>
<p>I’m impressed by the large number of additional applicants, and the yield is pretty good. I think 300 kids with > 1400 is pretty good. </p>
<p>Samiamy was kind enough to show the 2008 stats for comparison. I would venture to guess that 2009’s are better.</p>
<p>I am proud of my D for choosing Delaware’s honors program above 9 other schools, most of whom offered outstanding merit aid. It is her decision. I think she will perform well where she is happy.</p>
<p>BC, it sounds like you have regrets? Does your D?</p>
<p>Here is a link for the class which began in 2007:</p>
<p>[Trustees</a> hear of achievements, Class of 2011 profile](<a href=“http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2007/may/meeting052407.html]Trustees”>Trustees hear of achievements, Class of 2011 profile)</p>
<p>50 percent of incoming students not in an honors program have SATs in the 1300-1390 range.</p>
<p>That would be out of 1600.
Here is BU common data set from 2008 </p>
<p>SAT Critical Reading
580-670</p>
<p>SAT Math
600-690</p>
<p>university of delaware common data set</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.udel.edu/IR/cds/[/url]”>http://www.udel.edu/IR/cds/</a></p>
<p>BU common data set
[Boston</a> University - Office of Enrollment Planning and Retention](<a href=“http://www.bu.edu/oep/cds.html#section-c]Boston”>http://www.bu.edu/oep/cds.html#section-c)
UD SAT range for mid 50 is higher according to this as well as GPA is higher at UD.</p>
<p>Well, my thinking was at the BU tour, they said their stats were much higher than UD. Of course, that was before the deadline and actual BU stats were published. We turned down BU, because UD was my D’s first choice, and the fact that BU is $50K. I think my regret is that if BU is a better school academically, maybe we should have given it more consideration. UD has been my D’s first choice from the beginning of the whole college process. My biggest reservation is it really worth $30K?</p>
<p>BU is scored 50 and is ranked 60 on USNWR, UD is 71 and scored 46. Both are tier 1 schools. BU is 50K, UD is 30K. How do you personally measure value? If your concept of value is such, why did you not insist she either pick the higher ranked school (with lesser stats) or go to an instate school that would be less expensive? I would be happy that my daughter found a good school that she wants and was fortunate to get off the waitlist. I would have been happy if my DD wanted BU, it’s a great place. But I am very happy that she went to a great school, UD, that was her top choice. I think it’s time to drop it and put that Blue Hen Mom sticker on your car.</p>
<p>I don’t know if it’s wise to continue bringing “USWR rankings” into the conversation. Some of the things they use in their rankings are a little irrelevant (i.e. alumni giving rate). Besides, USNWR doesn’t take into account the cost of the school. The majority of their upper-tier schools have obscene tuitions which is not necessarily indicative of a great school. </p>
<p>As for the admissions statistics. They are up from last year (I’m in the class of 2012) but that should be expected. They aren’t going to skyrocket in one year. The class of 2013 across the US is the largest college applicant class in history and schools like UD, Penn State, etc. are going to be benefitting from the bad economy. So better students who maybe can’t afford to go to the Harvards of the world are choosing to go to places like UD. The combination of the two would lend itself to higher statistics. But we’re talking about almost 4,000 students. You can’t expect the numbers to skyrocket.</p>
<p>The UDel sticker is already in my car, thanks to my D. She’s on cloud 9.</p>
<p>Excellent! Now it’s time for you to act happy about her choice :)</p>