Staying HEALTHY in retirement, with enjoying retirement activities

Here’s an image (images) that I pulled off the Internet of men with the SAME waist circumstance, but with varying (increasing) amounts of visceral fat.


So, any waist measurement, for visceral fat, is probably misleading.

Height of each man?

Is 10 lbs of visceral fat around vital organs different in terms of health for someone who’s 6’2” versus 5’7” for example?

How do you know if you have visceral fat?

The same waistline for a short person suggests higher body fat than for a tall person.

I.e. a 35" waist 6’2" person is likely to have lower body fat than a 35" waist 5’7 person.

But not visceral fat, which hides inside you. Subcutaneous, I agree.

You can’t see visceral fat. A short overweight person with big waistline could have very little visceral fat. And a thin tall person could have a lot of visceral fat.

Then why worry about it, if you can’t see it, you can’t control it.

You can control it. I get a DEXA scan 1x per year.

None of that explains why my mom’s older sister (4 years older) who exercised less and ate worse (healthwise) - weighed more - has not gotten any sort of cancer as of yet, three years after my mom died of it. She hasn’t had heart issues either.

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Very hot liquids is so bad for your tissues from the back of your mouth down to your stomach. Being overweight or obese can contribute/be part of the reflux/GERD. One could do NONE of the things for ‘risk factors’ on the list from @sushiritto . And I know plenty of slim women with GERD too.

Absolutely! The reflux acidic nature gets on tissue not use to that. Gotta get the reflux under control! Your mom’s genetic make up might be different enough than yours - but a gastro MD will listen when you say you have reflux and how bad you have it, and mention your mom’s esophageal cancer/death.

I would ‘nip this in the bud’. When one gets older, there is greater reluctance to bigger interventions.

I was never overweight before cancer (cancer at age 53). Weight gain with 2 pregnancies was lost within 1 month for 1st and 2 months for 2nd.

Just overweight during cancer treatments and up to obese after. That is obviously when my GERD started. In some ways, I think my body was fighting the cancer (that spread to my lymph nodes) by retaining weight. And of course my inactivity with chemo (I had a lot of chemo) and other IV infusions. 50-90% of people on chemo lose weight. I was also with lots of steroids and other drugs with the chemo. Caloric intake was maybe 800 - 1000 calories/day for weeks - a piece of toast, two scrambled eggs was what I had daily, and maybe a small portion of dinner. But no activity because after some of the chemo was on the couch most of the day. However since I was handling all the chemo and other treatments, weight gain was way down any concern (the two first line drugs worked so well that I had 3 treatments beyond oncologist thought before a break and two ‘second line’ older chemos to kill off what the first line didn’t).

When I was swimming (to get healthy after cancer/cancer treatments) - and I am talking a long time of recovery before able to become active, I felt like I was ‘wheezing’. My PCP had some work ups to see what my medical issues were, as he knew I was trying to get ‘healthy’ after recovery from the cancer - and found I had allergies (ENT did a CT scan of sinuses and it showed allergies). I had a big respiratory work up and my lungs were functioning fine. I had my 2nd cardiac work up (I had my first earlier because two of the chemos can affect cardiac output, and part of my heart was radiated). I found out that the stress test with chemicals feels bad if you are out of shape or in shape (my 2nd one I was swimming 1 mile a time for at least 5 days/week).

My Gastro MD ordered a Barium Upper GI and that is when they discovered the hernia. He then did an upper endoscopy. He was reluctant to refer me to surgeon, but when I was pretty insistent, it turns out the surgeon he was friends with was a partner with the primary surgeon I wanted - and that was the surgical team.

Before I had surgery, I would prop up and not lay down flat at night - but if it comes up to the back of your throat, very likely some particles will go down respiratory.

My allergies are controlled with two nasal sprays and a medication to reduce secretions.

My gastro MD has me on generic Protonix (Pantoprazole Sodium) 40 mg, one pill a day about 1/2 hour before first meal of the day. He has said that is the best way to control the GERD. The GERD for me now is controlled pretty well. Will do better once I can lose the weight. The last of my weight gain made me apple shaped (obviously not good weight).

Many people have a variety of diets they follow for more optimal health. Different people have different interpretations of ‘diet and exercise’ - but being overweight (carrying around a lot of fat, period) and being out of shape (mainly mean cardio-vascular) for most people does potentially mean a shorter life and/or less quality to life due to physical limitations as one ages.

I found Tom Brady’s diet ‘interesting’: Diet and lifestyle

Brady’s health regimen includes transcendental meditation, yoga, hydrating, an 80/20 diet (meaning 80% alkaline and 20% acidic), early bed time, resistance training and neuroplasticity training.[536]

He and his family adhere to a controversial, strict diet, the “TB12 Method”, which has attracted much media attention.[537][538] Brady advocates a daily water intake in ounces of half of one’s body weight in pounds and personally consumes “a couple hundred ounces” daily.[539][540] He avoids most fruits, mushrooms, tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, coffee, Gatorade, white sugar, flour, gluten, dairy, soda, cereal, white rice, potatoes, and bread.[541][542] In 2022 Brady said he prefers a diet consisting of organic food saying, "You’ve got to see the process of food being grown […] If I need nutrients, I need that from soil.[528]

Brady’s friend and former teammate, tight end Rob Gronkowski, has followed Brady and Alex Guerrero’s plant-based diet plan since 2017.[543][544] Other professional athletes who follow Brady’s diet include quarterback Kirk Cousins[545] and hockey player Mark Scheifele.[546][547]

If it gets more common I plan to bring it up. Right now I think it’s in the realm of normal under the bell curve. I don’t want to complain a lot about things because I seem to have been pegged as a stressed out nuisance post brain tumor. No one cares about the side effects (probably isn’t much that can be done TBH), so it was just easier to learn to live with them than continue to get stressed out with doctor appts. I have mentioned I have either thyroid or lymph node pain in my neck (to the doctor), but she doesn’t think that’s a problem either, so… my next appt is in Jan. I’ll see how things go between now and then.

I never drink very hot liquids. Even when I drink “hot” tea pretty much every morning and some lunches or suppers, I always add a couple of ice cubes to it to cool it off. I don’t even care for spicy foods - seems I have plenty of pain receptors in my mouth!

That diet is out for me. I love most fruits and mushrooms, etc. Plus, there are plenty of studies showing that mushrooms are terrific for health.

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Then what?

Me too, I eat lots of fruit. We had 2-3 apples a day in our trip to Maine.
Eat what you like. One of my brothers avoided shellfish, things that are crawling from the bottom, while I eat plenty. He’s not as healthy as I am.

Shellfish like oysters sift all the crap out of the sea (literally). You are what you eat.

H loves them. I won’t touch them, except shrimp, and those don’t filter like oysters do.

Interesting , I don’t like shrimp that much.

I’m not sure what you’re asking me, but I’d suggest getting a DEXA scan. It’ll show you specifically what areas of your body where you/I/we “need work.”

You said “I eat lots of fruit.” Fruit sugar is still sugar and sugar is bad. Also, there are other side effects from eating too much fruit, which can researched on the Internet.

As for anonymous peanut gallery suggestions, without knowing you, more strength training, cardio, veges, protein, Vitamin D and calcium. BTW, the DEXA scan will tell you your bone density and if it’s good, average or not too good.

And almost everyone can cut calories.

Of course, plants and fungi also turn crap into edible food.

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I’m asking you what do you do if you find out you have visceral fat in your organs, surgery.
I mean how do you remove visceral fat.

I won’t get DEXA, and I still like to eat fruit, I eat tons of fruit every day. I think the key thing is to eat real food. The two persons I know that died at age 96 and 99, one of them was fat in her tweens even, stayed fat/chubby(but not obese) all though her life.