<p>My daughter was just removed from the waiting list for Stevens. She has already enrolled at Drexel. She is interested in Engineering and wants to play volleyball at a Div 3 school. Drexel is Division One and she may not be good enough to play there. She can't make up her mind. Any ideas of these two schools?</p>
<p>I can’t speak for Drexel - but Stevens is an excellent school. I know many students that go there right now. They all are doing very well and have placed very well with their internships.</p>
<p>But you probably can’t go wrong at either school.</p>
<p>I can’t speak for Stevens, but Drexel co-op is strong.</p>
<p>I agree with kliebo – great choice either way.</p>
<p>Maybe your daughter should contact the coaches?</p>
<p>The one thing I can add is that at Drexel at least one coop is mandatory. At Stevens you can choose between a coop, an internship or even neither if you so choose. </p>
<p>Also, Stevens is primarily a STEM school, very small compared to Drexel but in a hip small city of Hoboken a 7 min path ride to NYC. Drexel is a rounded school that started as an engineering school, much larger and in a big city.</p>
<p>My D looked at both Stevens and Drexel, and I am a Drexel alum. The athletic conference that Stevens is in is the Empire 8 (or 9). They play schools that are very far from Hoboken. I would imagine that the time committment for away games may be overnight,.</p>
<p>The Stevens campus itself is very nice, but the few blocks away are not so nice, which is similar to Drexel. Stevens is right across the river from NYC, and Drexel is deep in the heart of Philly. Drexel is much lareger and if your D decides to change her major, she has more options. Stevens has limited liberal arts classes, and no foreign language classes at, which turned off my D, since she is an engineering major with a Spanish minor.</p>
<p>Make a list of the pros and cons. Both are very good schools, but the Drexel co-op is more established than Stevens.</p>
<p>How come the Drexel website doesn’t list volleyball as one of their division 1 sports? Perhaps they are not Division 1 for that sport? In which case would she be good enough to make their team?</p>
<p>[Athletics</a> | Undergraduate Admissions | Drexel University](<a href=“http://www.drexel.edu/undergrad/student-life/athletics/]Athletics”>http://www.drexel.edu/undergrad/student-life/athletics/)</p>
<p>Also, is it important to her to play at the varsity level? Would club or intramural be enough for her?
I agree that it is a good idea to contact coaches to learn more about her options!!!</p>
<p>Otherwise, I think Drexel has better name recognition outside its own area than does Stevens. Not a deal breaker but if you’re looking for differences…</p>
<p>Offer her half the difference in cost between the two schools. I assure you, she will be very happy with her position on the Drexel volleyball team… or even playing club volleyball. :-)</p>
<p>Both of these schools are on my son’s list. He is a tennis player (decently ranked) and Junior in HS. He wants to be a physicist. </p>
<p>We’ve visited both schools. The differences are not worth mentioning. If it came down to only these two schools and, for some reason, the dollars were the same, I’d say Stevens only because of it’s proximity to NYC. </p>
<p>Philly is no NYC… not even close. Yes, they are both considered “big cities”, but that’s like saying Donald Trump and I enjoy similar comfort levels because we both live in a “house” drive a “car” and work in an “office”. ;-)</p>
<p>Both are great schools. She might want to consider going with: which school can I see myself at for the next four years.</p>
<p>As far as the post directly above, as someone who has lived in either Philadelphia or New York his whole life, I would disagree with the above statement “Philly is no NYC.”</p>
<p>I think it is a matter of personal preference. I find Philadelphia to be a much more liveable and enjoyable city. No comparison…and Philadelphia is the fifth largest city in the country.</p>
<p>Yikes dadinator! We’ll have to agree to disagree. I’m 50-something and actually work in both cities for the firm I’m with. I’ve been with them, splitting my time between these cities, for nearly 20 years. I was born and raised in this region, so both cities have been in my life since I was a child. </p>
<p>I love Philly, but New York City is… well… it’s New York City! It is a special place. I’m not alone in thinking this. New York is mentioned by people of the world in the same breath as London, Paris, Tokyo, etc… It is universally recognized as a revered member of the greatest cities of our planet. </p>
<p>With almost six times the population of Philly on only three times the land, there is more of everything in NYC… more theater, more clubs, more neighborhoods, more culture, more things to do and places to be on any given day of the week, more, more, more… far more!</p>
<p>There is also a big difference in the surrounding areas. The urban sprawl is much denser and goes much further from the borders of NYC than it does in Philadelphia. And the suburban sprawl after that is also much larger. This has a direct impact on the city itself as the population that actually works and plays in Manhattan is far, far larger than the simple difference in city populations might lead one to believe.</p>
<p>We do agree on one thing. There is no comparison. :-)</p>
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<p>I used to live in Hoboken. One of my best friends lived right next to the Stevens campus until this past fall, so I have had continuous connections there. The above statement is not really true. Hoboken is highly gentrified, and was very safe even back in the early 80s when I lived there. Stevens has a fabulous view of the river and NYC, and the PATH is a clean, safe, and fast ride into NYC. I agree with Maikai regarding the cultural resources of NYC vs Philadelphia. Philly is hardly Podunk, but it also isn’t New York.</p>
<p>Stevens is indeed very small. Other than that, I have no opinion.</p>
<p>Stevens was recently investigated by the NJ AG and the school president was forced out. He still has been on the receiving end of some large cash payments.</p>
<p>Let’s not turn this into a Philly vs. New York rivalry. The reality is that most college students cannot afford to participate in much of what New York has to offer. So decisions about either school need to focus on what they will get out of the school, the students and the particular campus rather than the surrounding city.</p>
<p>tom1944,
Yes, old news. The State of NJ sued Stevens and forced changes to its governance procedures. They are in full compliance now. </p>
<p>Although it certainly seems like there was some serious shenanigans going on and I agree the State should have gotten involved, I don’t agree with the way the Attorney General went about it. I feel it was an attempt at distracting the public from the corruption scandals swirling around the Corzine administration. They wanted to offset the damage with corruption fighting news of their own.</p>
<p>Under different political circumstances the case would have been dealt with behind closed doors through confidential arbitration and Stevens Institute, the staff and the students would have been spared the PR disaster that followed.</p>
<p>Your comment is evidence enough. An agreement was reached, people lost their jobs, money was paid back, the University has been under the watchful eye of special counsel for years, and yet once dirty, always dirty is the mindset of many… even if administration personnel have been changed and new procedures implemented.</p>
<p>maggidog,
Not true. Your words are probably more true for college towns than NYC. The beauty of NYC is there is quite a lot going on for free. The string of free world class concerts by A-list performers in Central Park is just one tiny example. And for students in NYC, it’s incredible. There are many, many cultural centers and events open for free to students. Also there are incredibly deep discounts for students for things that are not free.</p>
<p>I only remembered it because it was in the news again yesterday</p>
<p>tom1944,
Yes, that’s an example of why the proceedings should have taken place outside of the public spotlight. It continues to do damage to the University, it’s staff and students.</p>
<p>News outlets only care about capturing our attention. They won’t/don’t give a fair or balanced view of the facts. Ravech</p>
<p>News outlets only care about capturing our attention</p>
<p>I agree with that most people who read things in the newspaper do not know the real story,</p>