<p>Yes, its 7pm, and I still havent decided between Berkeley and UCLA.</p>
<p>So heres my final question: is there an advantage of going to Berkeley for civil engineering instead of going to UCLA for civil engineering in terms of what grad school I get into?</p>
<p>Yes, i kno posted the same thing in UCLA forums, but I want opinions from both groups.</p>
<p>Lemme clarify</p>
<p>what i meant to say was, would going to berkeley for undergrad instead of ucla for undergrad give me an advantage in getting into a really good grad school?</p>
<p>I am also having the same dilemma, but im a soc. major</p>
<p>Berkeley pwns in engineering.
Berkeley will get you a ton farther.</p>
<p>Both will give you the opportunity of a good education. Only you can get yourself into a good grad school.... go where you feel you want to go.</p>
<p>if you are 50/50 on decisions, flip a coin.</p>
<p>For Engineering it's not even a contest - Berkeley is leaps and bounds ahead...</p>
<p>for engineering, it's berkeley hands down</p>
<p>Generally, Berkeley > UCLA for engineering and sciences. The only downside to going to Berkeley for undergrad is that you are almost forced to choose another school for graduate work, but that's probably for the better anyway.</p>
<p>You are? I know for ChemE that's the case, but not for the rest of engineering. IEOR for sure is not like that.</p>
<p>You are essentially blacklisted for ChemE, "brownlisted" for EECS, and in most engineering disciplines, you are discouraged from re-applying to Berkeley for graduate school. Some loopholes to this include: getting a stupendous recommendation from a Berkeley professor who wants you back, a fully-paying fellowship that can be used at Berkeley, or studying at another institution before coming back to Berkeley. </p>
<p>At first, it sounds like a bad thing, but in reality, it's good. You are forced to experience the different research techniques of different institutions, and it's not as if having Berkeley removed from your list of graduate schools is the end of the world. There's MIT, Stanford, Caltech, etc...</p>
<p>bsd -- why is that? Just for engineering or for ANY science major?</p>
<p>bsd: That's not completely true, regarding EECS being "brownlisted." There is the EECS 5th Year MS program that has been accepting about 10 EECS students a year (~40 apply, from what I've heard). Getting a PhD is a different story, though.</p>