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Not true at all. If you have a 2% chance at any one school and you apply to 6 schools you’re odds of getting into at least one are 1-(.98)**6 == 11.4%. It’s not like the schools use an identical formula.</p>
<p>This is a quote from a letter Northwestern sent out regarding their admissions this year:</p>
<p>“Over 3,300 applicants with a 1500 SAT (CR+M) or higher (the equivalent of a 34 ACT) were not offered admission.”</p>
<p>So clearly - it was a very tough year and thousands of high stat kids were rejected.</p>
<p>OP - I would still like to hear where you DID get in.</p>
<p>What were your ECs? (Please don’t say “played piano/violin”…)</p>
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Do you play both the piano and violin? What a naive and silly thing to say.</p>
<p>I am apalled by some parents’ response here. Maybe some of your kids have graduated and disappointment with the college process was just a dim memory, but there was no need to be so harsh. But maybe it’s acceptable to be harsh because OP is an Asian with high stats, and therefore maybe his feelings wouldn’t be hurt as much. The snide remark about piano/violin was totally uncalled for.</p>
<p>I am sorry about OP’s college application results. It is always disappointing when getting rejected. It maybe a bit harder for Asians, but it has been a tough year for everyone. Those top schools are reaches for everyone. I hope you had some good acceptances to choose from. Don’t let this process define you, and don’t let people on this board make you feel bad. You should be proud of your accomplishments, and your stats are very impressive.</p>
<p>Nope. If they have the same admissions criteria, and the same number of places, your “qualifications” are no better at one than at the other. So your odds don’t increase even one whit.</p>
<p>It is not a headline to write -“Kid with high SAT scores gets rejected from Ivies”. It’s hardly more of a headline to write, “Four kids with high SAT scores get rejected from Ivies.” It has nothing to do with “Asian” - I’ll bet there were four short females with high SAT scores who were rejected, four tall males, four with blonde hair, and “four would require Pell Grants” (although in this last case, it might be five).</p>
<p>And, by the way, while I didn’t write the remark, and never would (I thought it uncalled for), I had two musician daughters who were substantially helped in admissions by their musical abilities - one was a composer who had an opera performed and was the finalist for a major international award, and one who had given benefit concerts on both coasts. Musical skills can be a great plus - but like all things Ivy - simply playing an instrument well will (usually) not be enough.</p>
<p>mini - you could be a lot less harsh, but I guess your kids are not applying this year.</p>
<p>All that happened this year is that instead of applying to 3-4 schools, or 6-8, some are applying to 12-14. Since there are no more places than before, there will be more thin envelopes. Candidates are no better qualified than they were before, and in that respect, schools are no more selective than they were before.</p>
<p>The OP didn’t ask for sympathy, and I didn’t provide it. I would like to know where he got in, and congratulate him for it.</p>
<p>20more, sorry that you and your friends were’nt accepted. It’s a tough thing to take right now, but believe me, with your academic success so far, i’m sure you can do well at any school you do go to. Those high stats and scores will hopefully serve you well. Good luck and best wishes.</p>
<p>Mini is being mean here</p>
<p>Sorry, but I’m tired of hearing from rejected applicants who play the race card, and I don’t mind calling them on it.</p>
<p>I looked at a few of the OP’s previous posts - he has been accepted at University of Chicago, Middlebury and Vanderbilt! Possible more - that was as far back as I went. I am now feeling less sympathetic - those are great options! There are thousands of kids out there tonight who would be thrilled to have an acceptance from one of those schools - let alone all 3. No need to be greedy.</p>
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So by your statements, if a person applied to multiple Ivies then they should either get into all or none. Don’t think that’s the case, just look at results posted in these forums… You might want to read a little on probability theory.</p>
<p>mini, with your cutting remark and dedication to truth, I would have thought you know some logic. Allow me to ask; If you have 20 coins, what is the chance to have all tails when you toss them? Is it still a half?</p>
<p>OP was also accepted at Carleton, Northwestern and Rice.</p>
<p>In my opinion - the OP is part of the problem He applied to 15 schools - that is too many - this is what is clogging up the system and causing so many qualified students to be denied or waitlisted.</p>
<p>He has 6 acceptances that I have seen - Vanderbilt, Middlebury, Chicago, Carleton, Northwestern and Rice. These are fabulous results.</p>
<p>OP - what did you expect - 15 acceptances?</p>
<p>"Allow me to ask; If you have 20 coins, what is the chance to have all tails when you toss them? Is it still a half? "
Every single year someone brings this up. The chances of acceptances at 20 different colleges have NO relationship to each other. NONE. Each acceptance or rejection is totally independent and does not affect in anyway admissions decisions made at other colleges- therefore your chances do not increase the more colleges you apply to. Each application is a single independent event judged by completely different admissions officers who set their own criteria of acceptance and in the case of the Iv’ys and top schools, have 8-10X’s as many applicants as openings. There is no mathematical increase in chances the more colleges you apply to. Mini is absolutely correct. </p>
<p>“He has 6 acceptances that I have seen - Vanderbilt, Middlebury, Chicago, Carleton, Northwestern and Rice. These are fabulous results.”
Agreed. This kid has nothing to complain about. There are so many students who would give ANYTHING for an acceptance at ANY of these schools.</p>
<p>The OP’s many applications supports his point. Because of the obscure and crapshoot nature of college admissions this year, he had to apply for 15 schools to receive good results. This is becoming less and less unusual.</p>
<p>I agree with rockvillemom – the OP did fabulous this admission cycle. Those are six fabulous, prestigious schools, highly regarded and academically rigorous. And yet, he can only go to one! </p>
<p>Why this laser focus on the Ivies (and MIT and Stanford)? Why do some people feel that the outcome of one’s college application process is solely defined by whether one or all of these schools accept them? </p>
<p>The OP said “zero acceptances.” That is not true. You were accepted to six schools! Celebrate the good news!</p>
<p>"mini, with your cutting remark and dedication to truth, I would have thought you know some logic. Allow me to ask; If you have 20 coins, what is the chance to have all tails when you toss them? Is it still a half? "</p>
<p>It’s only true if admissions are a lottery. But they are not, and to suggest that they are is an insult to hardworking, dedicated admissions officers around the country. And if (as the OP suggests), he and his four friends are “the same”, they will have exactly the same difficulty in getting their way out of the piles.</p>
<p>I have no sympathy for the OP, and to be fair he didn’t ask for any - but playing the race card as he did suggests to me (as it might to some admissions officers) that he may lack the maturity to benefit from the education that many of the schools he was rejected from have to offer.</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying where the OP was actually accepted. His post looks a little sensationalist now.</p>
<p>asian friend of mines got recruited to harvard for sport with a 2100 sat.</p>
<p>its all about the ecs bro</p>