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<p>Wow. You made my day cupcake. I can take biomedicine at Cambrdige. Wow... thanks a lot! :) never saw that before....</p>
<p>hmmm what does biomedicine entail (in terms of careers)? Does Oxford offer anything similar?</p>
<p>twirlonwater: i understand now about the different accepted conditions- however I have another question- AP test aren't until May (with scores released in the summer) so say a school gives you a conditional offer (that you are in if you get 5's on your AP tests), does that mean you pretty much have to place all bets on that school because US universities have a deadline for those wanting to enroll? (sorry if this doesn't make sense)</p>
<p>Wow, i'm really jealous [that you got to live with 2 Brits]. That must've been amazing!</p>
<p>Thanks for the equivalencies, I'll check out those schools as well.
and yes, I got Hannah too!</p>
<p>soakupthesun: about AP self-studying... If you search it on here, you can find a lot of info. There are some insane people who self-studied 9 APs and got all 5's and 4's. Of course, the people on this site can be super-high achievers...
Right now I'm only self-studying AP bio and chem.. it's alright so far. I like being able to learn just to learn-- No homework, grades, busywork. AP Bio is pretty easy (i've found that i actually learned most of the info in my honors bio class last year). Chemistry is a little harder- I wish I had a class for this one. However, I really enjoy chem, so it's not that bad.</p>
<p>biomedicine is basically the science part of the medicine course without the clinical and extra stuff. You do most of the same stuff, etc. Biology, diseases, etc. Well, in terms of career, you can go and apply tograduate entry afterwards or you can return to the states and pursue a med school here. I am not sure. Oxford, does not have the same natural science option that cambridge has. But, oxford has a biochemistry, etc. course, which might work for you.</p>
<p>Yep, it does, more or less, which stinks. I don't know how I will work with that next year. The results from the british students a-levels dont come out till late August. Just hope you have enough aps for an unconditional... i have no advice on that!!</p>
<p>Haha, they ended up being some of my really good friends. Humor is amazing. Accents are incredible. Best part was asking one of them to repeat harry potter over and over again- she eventually stopped saying it. We went out one night to see the movie over the summer and on purpose for me and one of my other american friends, said just the same as them. HILARIOUS... we also had great chats about america or britian and the world!</p>
<p>Have fun!</p>
<p>Haha, fun stuff</p>
<p>If you plan to practice medicine in the US, it's better to go to undergrad in the US. You're much more likely to get the proper advising in the State - not to mention the very important committee letter.</p>
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I am a graduate from that course. Now a PhD student at Oxford. I didn't do the biomed-type options though. I specialised in zoology.</p>
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Living with the two people was amazing. The humor was great. Great, great greeat!!
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What you really need to experience is pantomime. This is a play of a fairy story (there are lots of them. Cinderella, Aladdin, Peter Pan, Little Red Riding Hood etc) which all theatres put on at Christmas. It's aimed at kids but lots of adults go as well. Many of the female parts are played by large men in drag (eg Cinderella's ugly sisters) and some men are played by young girls (eg Peter Pan). It's a comedy with a high level of audience participation that is hard to explain. Plus you get sweets thrown (or served with a tennis raquet) into the audience. Pretty much every famous British film or TV star, and lots of athletes too, queue up to humiliate themselves on stage every Christmas by appearing. Look it up in wikipedia. I'm sure you'd love it (I beleiev this also exists in Canada, but I've never been there. It definitely does exist in Australia)</p>
<p>You mention Bath and there is a very well respected university there too. Top 10-15 in the UK usually. The uni is actually an ugly modern campus but the city itself is flawlessly gorgeous and a world heritage site as a whole. Bath also offers Natual Sciences. I turned it down for Cambridge.</p>
<p>Cupcake, are you American, or British? Did you like the course at Cambridge? Is cambridge nice? If you are American, how was the experience going to there abroad? How was the application process for you?</p>
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Yes. It was hard work though! It's a very intense 8 week term that leaves you exhausted by the vacation.
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Fine, but I had already lived in England for 2 years when I applied and did A-levels at a British school so it wasn't a shock to me (and also that meant my teachers were used to preparing students for Oxbridge interviews, which was an advantage). Basically it's all about finding out how smart you are and if you are open to their teaching methods. Nothing like ECs matter in the process. What matters is you interest in the subject you wish to study. Focus, NOT being well-rounded, is the key in my opinion. The opposite to the US.</p>
<p>In terms of selectivity and what they offer undergrads I would put Oxford and Cambridge with Dartmouth, Columbia, Penn, Amherst, and Williams.</p>
<p>Cupcake, sorry- I thought for some reason you wre British or American. My apologies. I am also kindof a shy, more quiet person, and what I have seen of pictures of Camrbidge compared to Oxford. I really cambridge and the teaching style there. It would be perfect. </p>
<p>I am sorry that I am asking you a lot of questions. How is the natural sciences course? I know it is incredible hard. Are there any tips or advice you would give for the application or the interview? I am really interested in the biological part of the natural science course. I want to eventually become a doctor and really like the neuroscience and the bio part at the end of the natural science part. </p>
<p>Thats good to hear in a way. I am very pasisoned about it. Okay, thanks slipper, that is good to hear in wa y. those are the schools I am looking at in the US, those.</p>
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I'm not offended. Why should I be? I think I have confused UK/US spelling don't I?</p>
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I am also kindof a shy, more quiet person, and what I have seen of pictures of Cambridge compared to Oxford. I really cambridge and the teaching style there. It would be perfect.
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Cambridge and Oxford are much more similar than they are different. The teaching style is very similar, though of course I cannot speak for eery individual subject and the thousands of different teachers. It's the same in principle.</p>
<p>Just remember that England is a real place, not a movie. Do not believe anything you've seen in anything by Richard Curtis (eg Love Actually). Always snowy winters (nope. An inch of snow causes national panic), costume dramas (definitely no) etc etc. You know what I mean. In reality, as a student you will be here mostly in the winter, when it's dark at 4pm, possibly with very little money, studying for long hours. It's not like being a tourist, visiting the sights in the summer, with lots of cash and only meeting people employed to keep you happy.</p>
<p>Americans and American culture in general is obsessed with stereotypes, and 99% of these are not true. As soon as you go to another country (I don't know if you've left the US before?) you may be very disappointed that is does not live up to your media-induced dreams. I don't want to put you off (I have been very happy here for 7 years). I just want to warn you to be realistic. Things may not be as perfect as you hoped them to be.</p>
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The thing is, I think I am quite smart so I didn't kill myself over it. I got a 1st, which is the highest grade (the grades as 1st, upper second or 2.1, lower seconrd or 2.2, 3rd and pass without honours. Probably you already know this) and I worked hard, but I wasn't overworked. I think some people were though...</p>
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Are there any tips or advice you would give for the application or the interview? I am really interested in the biological part of the natural science course.
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I think if you search for my other posts I have posted about MY interview, but it was a long time ago. I have also posted a link to a site where people write reviews of interviews somewhere.</p>
<p>Thank-you very much for your informative post. I have been outside of the countries many time, and understand what England is really like. It is definitely not a Harry Potter tale and it is real life. I was talking more about the scenery. Yes, additionally, I have talked to many people about the life in England and what it is like for a college student and researched what life really is like. I will actually have more money by going to England than in America. Haha, actually- I ahev never seen Love Actually. I heard it is a good movie though... </p>
<p>Thanks, I actually did search your threads. They are very informative. Thank for you the information.</p>
<p>Do you mean that you'll get more money because you have an English degree or that it's cheaper to go to England? Because I've always thought I'd be alot more expensive...</p>
<p>Even as an international student, the tution will be less than most of the colleges I will be considering here. For example, at Oxford, the tution for the highest costing undergraduate degree (excluding clinical medicine, which is the last 3 years of the med. course), is 13,000 pounds. That is roughly 26,000 dollars. Far, far, far less for tution. Even after calculating in flights, books, and living costs, it does not equal the costs here. Additonally, in most cases, you are going to school for less number of years.</p>
<p>It really depends on which college in America you are comparing it too. I am comparing it to schools like Upenn, jhu, etc. If you were interested in a state school or a public school, it would be more money. Also, one of the thing is, that there is rarely finacial aid and most of the times (correct, me if I'm wrong), you have to show proof that you have enough money. Also, it depends where you live (London is way more) and your lifestyle. Overall, for me, it should be cheaper. But, that was really not a deciding factor for me to go. It was just a bonus that I found out along the way.</p>
<p>Hey guys! I am hs senior from US and wanted to find out what medicine programs in London be a match for me? and can u please tell me a couple of reaches too?
SAT :2190(had an appendicitis when i took it and I am going to tell that to the admissions dept.)</p>
<p>gpa:I have an A average which is a 3.8(out of 4.0) unweighted/4.06 weighted gpa in my hs</p>
<p>major medicine related ECs: worked in 4 hospitals in India and US and 1 radiology clinic. Also did neurological research under a very famous neuroscientist at cold spring harbor labs(its a very prestigious lab here)</p>
<p>go to Study</a> Across The Pond : Study in the UK, Studier i Storbritannia and sign up and they'll give you a student advisor that can help you out....</p>
<p>I got Hannah too!</p>
<p>I'm French and I just got an offer from Oxford (Christ Church) where I had applied because of the incredible reputation as well as the beauty of the town. </p>
<p>Otherwise I always wanted to study in the US (did summer school at Cornell) so I'm a little lost. My chances of getting acceptances from top US undergraduate colleges are high (sorry for sounding pretentious but it's the shortest way of putting it). But then I would have to say no to Oxford. </p>
<p>The entire family and beyond tells me Oxford will open all doors (including graduate school at ivy league universities). And I loved the place, as well as the professors' approach, during the interview. I will have to reassess everything now. Any tips, insights, thoughts?</p>
<p>I'll probably never get into Oxford but I say go for Oxford. It's one of the top 5 university's around the world ( I believe it's number 2.) I guess it's alittle different for you since you already live in Europe, the atmosphere is somewhat the same. Go for Oxford though, it's a beautiful school and the area is wonderful.</p>
<p>yeah, go for Oxford! If you really love it and can see yourself living there, then why not?? If you still really want to go to the US, there's always grad school. Sometimes, when things don't go exactly as planned, it actually works out for the better.</p>