<p>@MYOS1634 that’s very affordable then</p>
<p>Yes, and lots of perks. :)</p>
<p>So, now, you have three affordable safeties you like - that should always be the first step in building a college list. If you are fine attending any of your safeties if you don’t get into your reaches, all you have to do is keep the 3 safeties and add a bunch of reaches in addition to Vanderbilt (cut out the unaffordable OOS public options).
You’d make the first cut for Top 20 schools but your EC’s aren’t of the caliber they want.
You can try Tulane, UMiami, Emory, USC (CA), USC Honors (SC), tOSU, UCincinnati where your odds are better than at Ivies and Stanford (you can try “just to see” but your odds are very very low.) For the last three, check out the requirements for merit scholarships.</p>
<p>So would a better list be:
Florida
Florida state
Alabama
Vandy
Northwestern
Georgia
Usc
Unc
Michigan
Georgia tech
Duke</p>
<p>(I want to keep unc, mich, and gt)</p>
<p>@MYOS1634</p>
<p>Ugh but I also feel like I want to apply to virginia (uncle went there), and purdue (my physics teacher loves me and he is on board of directors of alums)</p>
<p><a href=“I%20want%20to%20keep%20unc,%20mich,%20and%20gt”>quote</a> (…) Ugh but I also feel like I want to apply to virginia (uncle went there), and purdue
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Run the Net Price Calculator for EACH (each college calculates differently!) and chuck the ones that are unaffordable. Keep the rest on for now. You’ll cut some later on.</p>
<p>As of now, this is your “real” list.
Florida
Florida state
Alabama
Vandy
Northwestern
Georgia
Usc</p>
<p>Any reason you’re not applying to Tulane and UMiami?</p>
<p>You may want to read this thread, as well as others made by the posters.
<a href=“Not Quite Over, But This Story Shows How Drastically Lists Can Change Over Time - Admission Stories - College Confidential Forums”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/admissions-hindsight-lessons-learned/1619370-not-quite-over-but-this-story-shows-how-drastically-lists-can-change-over-time-p1.html</a></p>
<p>With info you provided, It does help narrow your best FIT & BALANCE. However, if you are going to do something, go full at it with all you can and wait for the outcome. A mix of top & safety schools in your field, (IVYs, Private large, LACs, and Publics).
So far, I would say you should also look more into the following schools:
MIT
CAL Tech
Cornell
Duke
Vanderbilt
Boston (U)
Williams
Carleton
UNC-Chapel Hill
Florida
Alabama
BEST OF LUCK TO YOU.</p>
<p>@MYOS1634 notice all of my listed schools and see their sports teams stacked up against Tulane, thats the main reason I haven’t looked into it. I want that big school and sports team spirit to go along with the academics.</p>
<p>I’m gonna probably apply to the other ones you left out as well. The list you gave me are definites but I have read a lot on here saying that no matter what people tell you about how much or how little a college will give you in aid (unc, virginia, michigan, gt), there is always a chance they are wrong and you can get a boatload. I’m not really gonna rule them out just yet I think. I have visits set up to unc, uva, duke, mich, uf, fsu, and gt and if I don’t like the feel of it, off my list it goes…</p>
<p>Ps, living in Fl, I know that Miami is in a trashy area and I have no desire to be down there…</p>
<p>How about Ohio State? @MYOS1634</p>
<p>UGA has a big (or in my opinion LOL) football team, if not great. Based on your stats you have a great chance of getting in the Honors program. </p>
<p>Hm, I’m not a great sport fan (at all) and to me Tulane looks plenty sporty. 
Okay I understand for UMiami, can’t comment on the area, but the campus is very nice and the school is strong. Also it’s my impression it’s big on sports.</p>
<p>tOSU = Ohio State, I’d listed it earlier but I guess not clearly enough. It’s got big merit scholarships open to OOS students so that’d be a great pick for you. And football is a passion there. :)</p>
<p>
Those students end up going to their financial safety or taking a gap year because the magic unicorn of financial aid didn’t appear.
Seriously… o_O
Use the Net Price Calculator on each website. You’ll have a clearer idea. Don’t believe people but believe the NPCs that each college has set up for that purpose.</p>
<p>In addition, public universities are meant to serve their State’s residents. OOS applicants are mostly admitted if they’re legacies, athletes, or can bring something (typically, a lot of OOS tuition money). It’d make no sense to give them big scholarships, unless they have something else the school wants and if it’s within the school’s policy.
GTech, UVA, UMich do NOT give scholarships to out of state students. Only to in-state students. Admission is need-blind; they don’t know if you can pay, and don’t care. They admit you and it’s your problem to figure out how to pay. So rather than waste time and money on these schools, ask your parents whether they will be able to afford net price (the price provided by the net price calculator.)<br>
Some universities, like Ohio State, have merit awards for OOS students. Some don’t.</p>
<p>Private universities can do whatever they want and in their case, attracting a variety of students, including geographical diversity (for instance, Florida kid applying to a Midwest school) matters, so they would reward that too.</p>
<p>Tulane isn’t competitive enough to me, idk.</p>
<p>And oh ok. Should I replace Michigan with Ohio state? (Sorry, didnt know if the t in tOSU meant something lol)</p>
<p>Actually, the person posting in that thread said she got lots of aid from schools she didnt expect to and didn’t get anything from the ones she did…</p>
<p>I’ve run the net price calculators on some of them and saw they can get very expensive.</p>
<p>So a more realistic list for me would be UF, FSU, Bama, Ohio State, Duke, Northwestern, UGA, USC, Vandy, Miami (and if I’m feeling feisty, Georgia Tech, UNC, UVA)?</p>
<p>Tulane is at least as academically competitive as UF but for sports I admit I have no clue 
so if you mean athletics I trust your judgement.</p>
<p>The person who said that probably hadn’t run the net price calculators, didn’t understand the difference between merit and financial aid, the difference between OOS public and OOS private…</p>
<p>They added the t because they got tired of being confused with OSU Oregon State :D</p>
<p>Good job running the net price calculators. Not enough students do it and then end up crying in the Spring. Notice how each college seems to calculate differently?</p>
<p>Yeah I realize the t is for The because they think it makes them cool haha. But yes I mean in sports for Tulane.</p>
<p>Yes that is probably true…</p>
<p>And thanks! But yes I do. I also see that I qualify for basically no need-based aid! How great right 
@MYOS1634</p>
<p>Hmmm, did you only omit Michigan for financial reasons? Since it’s essentially one of the best with regards to your major. And someone said UMich doesn’t give scholarships to an OOS student, but that’s a lie; they do, but it’s very competitive, so I wouldn’t count on it. I would still keep it on your list though, because it’s a terrific school. Run the Net Price Calculator though, my FA package from UMich was exactly the same as the one on there.</p>
<p>Also, I would try to find out how many of these can be applied to non-binding early action. Thus, when you get your EA results, you can cut down on how many safeties/matches you can apply to, or add more if need be.</p>
<p>I would still recommend UNC and UVA, especially since the former has a relatively cheap OOS tuition comparatively to other top state schools. Obviously it’s the most competitive of UM/UVA/UNC, but they’re all quite good. If you apply to an Ivy League, I would recommend Cornell only.</p>
<p>@enigmaticescape I think I will keep all 3 on my list as some public reaches (financially at least) and hope for the best. I’m from NC and my dad’s always been a huge UMich fan lol. I’m not planning on doing any ivies. Trying to keep application limit at 14 or so… I think I have a list of those 14 ready</p>
<p>That’s understandable, application fees are quite expensive. But yeah, reiterating the whole applying early thing; I applied to my safety college/a few match colleges early, and thus when I was accepted to them all, I was able to save more money by removing the rest of the safety/match colleges, and applying to the few reaches I had.</p>
<p>Makes sense. Thanks for that! @enigmaticescape</p>
<p>My list of 14 (from safety to reach): florida, fsu, alabama, georgia, purdue, gt, ohio state, michigan, unc, uva, northwestern, duke, vanderbilt, usc…</p>
<p>Bump… Just curious for another opinion or two</p>