<p>Definitely Rochester. I think that she could consider it a safety, although perhaps not an absolute slamdunk. They do offer an array of merit scholarships. Clark also sounds like a good idea.</p>
<p>Vassar is definitely not a safety. To give you some idea, a girl I know with similar stats (possibly a little better) from NE was accepted at Bucknell and Dickinson, wait-listed at Vassar, and rejected from Middlebury and UVA.</p>
<p>Carnegie-Mellon (Match - closer than Case-Western but probably still 9 hrs)</p>
<p>Check out Saint Joseph’s U in Philadelphia. They have a strong biology program and pre med advising. Also offers special scholarships to women in the sciences - the John P. McNulty Scholars Program. 3 full tuition scholarships for natural science, math or computer science majors.
Check their web site [Saint</a> Joseph’s University | Philadelphia, PA](<a href=“http://www.sju.edu%5DSaint”>http://www.sju.edu)</p>
<p>Just wanted to add that for our Massachusetts MetroWest public high school, there seems to be no rhyme or reason for acceptances at Franklin & Marshall, with some kids with very good stats rejected, while those with so-so credentials getting in, so it should be used cautiously as a safety school.</p>
<p>Another vote for Clark. A definite safety for your daughter, and pretty strong in the sciences, I think. And I agree with mathmom to look at the top SUNY’s–Geneseo and Binghamton (though I think Binghamton’s a bit bigger than your daughter is looking for). I don’t know what the merit aid picture is like, but their OOS cost is relatively low as northeastern state U’s go.</p>
<p>If she really likes Case, I suspect – taking everything, including geography, into account – it’s pretty close to a safety for her.</p>
<p>It’s farther away, but Pitt would be a great financial safety…although it’s a bit big</p>
<p>also, maybe skidmore?</p>
<p>Thank you all again. We are going to do some research and look at Clark, U of Rochester, Vassar, CMU and UVM. Perhaps even Skidmore. We are hoping to check out BC and Tufts during spring break.</p>
<p>She had visited Bucknell - she loved the school. But thinking about it later, she was concerned that getting to/from Bucknell could be a problem - it is a bit hard, accessibility wise. We were not able to visit Lehigh - we just drove around the campus and she decided she didn’t like it as much.</p>
<p>Our school does have Naviance - but it is very new. Have tons of data for schools like UMass Amherst (a large %age of the kids from our high school go there). Hardly any data for some of the schools we’ve been talking about on this thread. Makes it hard to judge if a school could be considered a safety or a match for her. So, I really appreciate all your help!</p>
<p>Any input on Quinnipiac as a safety school for her? It has rolling admissions which make it attractive. I was browsing through their website and while they do have several science related majors (and are apparently adding a medical school), the leaning seemed to be more towards business and community service. Is that a wrong impression? What’s the reputation of their science/math dept?</p>
<p>A girl from our school is in a PT program at Quinnipiac. She was a very bright student in HS and her parents say the program is challenging and she is doing well. This is a 6 year program? and is specialized so don’t know how it would relate to a regular liberal arts degree.</p>
<p>Clark would be very good choice, my D didn’t like the surrounding area. We went to a visit day in the fall? of Jr. year, keep an eye out for some in the spring also. This gave her a free app and they have many merit scholarship choices. I enjoyed the visit day program- many sessions of interest to parents as well as students.</p>
<p>I also know of several top students looking at the honors program at UVM. Their VIP app is rolling.</p>
<p>Quinnipiac would be a very safe safety.</p>
<p>Median acceptance stats for our Massachusetts high school are 3.06 GPA and 1150 SAT (math/reading). A 1110 SAT/2.8 GPA from our high school is enough to get you in.</p>
<p>SUNY at Buffalo or SUNY at Stonybrook (center of Long Island) might be academic safeties with strong programs in the maths and sciences. UBuffalo (a different way to say that first school) is larger than she asked for; not sure the numbers of students at SUNYStonybrook.</p>
<p>Frequent confusion: State University of New York/SUNY at Buffalo a.k.a. University at Buffalo is NOT the same school as “Buffalo State.” Don’t ask me why, I didn’t grow up here.</p>
<p>Buff State is a former teacher’s college (like most of the “X States” in the SUNY system). UB (like Temple or Pitt in Pennsylvania, or Cincinnati in Ohio) was once upon a time a private comprehensive university that was taken over by the SUNY system. (I did grow up there, and we always called it “UB”, although it seems to have gone through any number of acronyms since then – SUNYAB, UBuffalo.)</p>
<p>My favorite safety for an A or A- student is DePaul; it is a really amazing school. Chicago is great as a college town, too. Consider it.</p>
<p>American would be a safety for her, but I don’t know enough about it to recommend it.</p>
<p>Case Western is pretty nice. I think it’s a safety for her and she is likely to get some merit money. Come visit if you haven’t yet. Some great academics (excellent bio and math departments) and some fun stuff. You are allowed to keep a rabbit for a pet in your dorm room if it’s okay with your roommate - what other colleges allow that? And everything is on line - at an on-campus shuttle stop, you can see time til the next shuttle comes; you can track your laundry from your laptop and see when the washer is done and which dryer is free, for example.</p>
<p>A straight “A” student with 2100 SATs & well rounded ECs might want to consider leaving her geographic comfort zone and consider schools like Rice, WashUStL & Northwestern. Clearly these are not safety schools, but all are accessible via major airports. Travel time should be within your stated parameters but, of course, the method of travel would be by plane.
With the options of Clark University & the Univ. of Rochester, you should be safe. If an LAC is acceptable and merit money is necessary, then St. Lawrence University is an option to consider as the science center is new. This, however, tends to be a cliqueish school of only about 2200 students. Your daughters profile is a match with respect to activities as this is a gorgeous campus with well rounded athletic students.</p>
<p>More choices to look into. I hadn’t considered DePaul for her - will take a look. Thanks MidwestMom.</p>
<p>Gifford - she is interested in Rice and perhaps Northwestern. But I didn’t think any of those would qualify as safety schools. So far, among all the schools she likes, Case is perhaps the closest to being a safety for her. That’s the reason I was looking for a couple more to add to the list. Clark and U of Rochester are two that we need to look into more.</p>
<p>I wandered over to the Quinnipiac topic - and some of the comments there are very negative. It sounds like it might not be worth considering.</p>
<p>UVM has a VIP app that’s rolling? That’s an interesting thought…more work this weekend!</p>
<p>Northwestern & Rice are cleary not safety schools. Northwestern University is a slight reach to reach as the average SAT score is about 1450/1600, while Rice may like the geographical diversity aspect of your daughter’s application. Many NU students turn down Ivies for Northwestern. My point is that, with enough appropriate safeties already, a highly qualified gifted student should surround herself with the most challenging environment that meets her needs. Safeties are important, but this is an important time for continued intellectual growth & stimulation. A 4.0 GPA, 2100 SAT student should not have to settle for a less rigorous academic climate than she has earned.</p>
<p>CMU, probably a match but could be a little better than match for female with that stat.</p>
<p>Tulane gives several $25,000 annual merit scholarships for which no essays are required.</p>
<p>Just to add to obsessedparent’s post a bit, the $25K per year scholarships (of which there are actually quite a few more than several, closer to 200+) require no extra application. All accepted students get considered for scholarships of $25, 22, 20 or 15K per year. Those amounts are for this year, they could be a thousand or two more each by the time she applies. Also there are between 75-100 full tuition scholarships awarded, but those require a separate application and a project. With your D’s stats I would think the $22K would be almost for sure, and more likely the $25K, but her chances for the full tuition scholarship would be low I think.</p>
<p>The math department at Tulane is not as well known as some of the other schools mentioned, but it is actually pretty strong. Tulane has a fair number of pre-meds, so the bio program is also a good one, and it is not unusual for undergrads to get involved in research at either the main campus or at the med school. Southwest flies from New Orleans to Boston.</p>