Summer HS music composition camp: UNCSA, Berklee/Boston Conservatory...

Hello,

I’m researching the high school composition summer camps at UNCSA (Composition/Music Technology https://www.uncsa.edu/summer/music-summer-intensives/composition-music-technology/index.aspx) and Berklee/Boston Conservatory (HCSI https://bostonconservatory.berklee.edu/summer-programs/hsci). Does anyone have any first-hand experience they’d like to share? Are they very selective? Do students leave the program with finished compositions they can use for college applications? My kid did the Illinois Wesleyan Composition camp last year and enjoyed it. I’m looking for something with more depth this year. Kid doesn’t take private comp lessons. Also considering Kinhaven because they have a composition emphasis (while also playing in ensembles and orchestra).

Thanks in advance! :slight_smile:

The UNCSA program has a technological twist:

“This intensive is for composers who have already created their own music using programs like Garage Band, Cakewalk and Noteflight, but who want to expand their creative perspective and technique. Summer composition students will enjoy a variety of projects: creating music for film, composing music for the concert stage, creating, recording and producing live music combined with synthesized music and improvisation.”

The Boston Conservatory program is acoustic and perhaps more foundational in some ways (this is not a Berklee program despite the merger- does your kid want a Berklee program?):

"The High School Composition Intensive (HSCI) is a two-week program designed to challenge and engage students who are serious about music composition. Young composers will take part in a rigorous daily practice of composition through faculty-led private and studio composition lessons. All participants will build a toolbox of techniques that are essential on the path to finding their voice. Students will learn how to write quickly and effectively with limited time to wait for “inspiration to strike.” They will discover the rehearsal techniques of professional musicians and/or ensembles and will have an opportunity to attend lectures by working composers on their music and processes. Students will receive guidance in the art of blending genres (visual, drama conveyed musically) through trips to local museums.
Ultimately, each student composer will develop a portfolio of works for collegiate applications and experience their work being performed by professional musical ensembles, including The Worcester Chamber Music Society and Transient Canvas.By the end of this two-week intensive, students will gain a more advanced understanding of music theory, an improved fluency in notating their compositions, and greater confidence in their skill and creativity as composers. "

UNCSA is three weeks, and BoCo is two weeks.

For the first few years I really wondered about Bo Co students writing several short pieces in the course of two weeks. As it says above “students will learn how to write quickly and effectively with limited time for inspiration to strike.” However, the concert at the end does seem to produce some good pieces and kids do end up with pieces for application. I just personally feel that the message should instead be, spend some time on your work and get it right. Perhaps for beginning composers the speed with which pieces are written creates fluency, but for more mature composers taking a lot of time is needed. Doctoral students may write two pieces a year. Anyway, people seem to love it and come out with some good works for that level of composition.

Regarding UNCSA, is your kid interested in music technology, using electronics and software, writing for film, and so on or more of a paper and pencil/Finale kind of composer?

Other programs for high schoolers include Walden School (Dubin NH), Yellow Barn, BU Tanglewood Institute, Brevard, Curtis, and some people mention Interlochen.

Walden is 6 weeks, BUTI is 6 weeks, I think Yellow Barn is two…is there a preferred time frame?

UNCSA and BoCo are both great programs. There have been people on this forum with experience in both. Any program with finished pieces that are recorded will help with applications!

Does your kid want a teacher? Sometimes a professor, composer or grad student will teach via computer if there isn’t anyone near you. I don’t think weekly lessons are necessary but having someone to bounce things off of or help with technical problems as needed, or every 6 weeks, can be very helpful and the teacher can also help advise on applications and even provide a recommendation for a music supplement.

Thanks for your feedback. He wants some tech component (scoring for film and digital media/games) but also wants the basic fundamentals. He also needs to be practicing his instrument that’s why Walden, as awesome as it sounds, is too long to go without practicing his instrument. Hence i’m looking for a shorter camp, or Kinhaven which has both though the composition part may not be as much as he’d get at an comp intensive. I think Interlochen and BUTI may have even less.

I understand about the “how can you compose so many pieces of quality in only 2 weeks?” question for BoCo. I wonder if it’s good to just get him writing stuff without waiting for the perfect time though. Your comment definitely makes me wonder if I should opt for the longer 3-week at UNCSA (I know they are kind of different). I’d like to know what kind of projects students produce at UNCSA because from the description, it sounds like a variety of different things.

Also, do these camps have a very selective admission process? His pieces are very short and he really only has 2.

Thanks again!

If he wants a tech component, then the UNCSA program looks like a good choice. And it is three weeks, not too shore and not too long. It looks like the varied offerings will also be a good overview of the field for him.

BoCo really gets great results, so I have become a fan :slight_smile: But no tech component as far as I know. There are programs that are all techy if that interests but UNCSA looks like a good program with a mixed curriculum. It also has students with a range of experience.

Oberlin has a Sonic Arts workshop https://www.oberlin.edu/summer-programs/sonic-arts-workshop This is a little different from what your son has done so far but he might be interested later. Electroacoustic composition is a creative field and very different from studio production.

Is your son able to write music with paper and pencil or on Finale or Sibelius? That would be important for BoCo.

Berklee has a weekend workshop on electronic music production https://www.berklee.edu/summer/programs/electronic-music-production-and-sound-design-weekend

For this summer, the overview provided by UNCSA seems like the best opportunity and hope he enjoys it.

Yes he has worked with Finale. Thanks for your input!

If he has worked with Finale, BoCo is still a good option,but it won’t have the tech component. They do visit museums to inspire works based on visuals, that kind of thing. The location in Boston and the way the program may mimic a day in an urban conservatory may appeal.

But with your son’s interests, as you describe them, but overview and variety at UNCSA sounds perfect.

Adding, after reading that your son is a junior, that having pieces to submit for prescreens is vital. We know that BoCo provides that, so check and make sure UNCSA does too. The website would seem to indicate that both electronic and acoustic works will be done at their program. Make sure that acoustic works are performed live by musicians, because schools often require or prefer that and it can be very hard to arrange (and afford) outside of formal programs like this.