Since all of these schools have already been deemed to be desirable, enjoy your tour and info session, visit the pool and see who’s around, and make the most of your time there. It’s not ideal, but you can connect with the coach by zoom later.
You’d visit if you weren’t planning to swim, so it’s hardly a write-off. I agree with everyone that miscommunications happen. Disappointing, but not the end of the world.
I would text, not email or voice mail, for this sort of thing.
Is there any way that you could submit your daughter’s best times in converted yards and LCM? just so curious and think it would help a lot of us going through the process! I think you may have earlier, but it is at 1200 posts!
College Tour helped D24 rank schools in order of preference, after considering academics, environment, vibe and coaches. Except for Tufts, all NESCAC coaches she was engaging with directed her towards pre-reads, except for one where there are reviewing the SCOTUS decision. 3 more tours/meetings will help her list her swim schools in her order of preference. Then she hopes some coach support will come her way.
Did yesterday’s coach actually come to the meeting?
She luckily got through as we were driving, and managed to meet with head /assistant coach, tour the facilities and confirm she’s up for pre-read. Very much a school she liked.
Based upon some of your earlier posts, adding it up it sounds like your D now has about 7 schools with prereads? And that she already had some support at two? Was she able to see those two schools? Hopefully she has or will and that they are places she could see herself at!
Will you share times?
most times have been previously posted, and received several PMs recommending the thread to focus on process/journey, and avoid naming specific schools/coaches/times/athletes before she hopefully
received offers/decisions
Is she finding things she likes across all 7 schools where it looks like she’ll have pre-reads? Any dropping off the list after the visits? Are these schools she’d like to attend even if for some reason she couldn’t swim anymore?
Her tour included both schools on her swim list, schools where she maybe able to walk-on (Brown, Dartmouth), and schools where there would be no varsity opportunity (Tufts).
her personal ranking includes schools from each category, confirming a strong academic fit. she’s decided to finalize her order of preference upon completing the rest of her visits on the west coach, and hopefully with more clarity on her rankings amongst each school’s recruits.
As previously stated by a poster, until there is strongly communicated coach support, there is no hook in her application process. The very strong positive support messages her friend’s getting illustrate a very different level of interest and coach commitment, so D24 is very aware of her weak position. One coach has told her he will be recruiting a larger swimmer class in 2024 but left it at that.
understood, but rather than trying to find in 1200 posts, would you mind sharing her LCM times in a couple of her best events? 50 free= 100 free=
@psmith1 your best bet is to check your swimmer’s times agains other recruits and the conference roster on SwimCloud. Do you have an account?
Before you make a decision make sure the coach confirms that the walk on will happen if accepted. We have a friend who was at slightly higher level (multiple sectional cuts) than your swimmer and was deemed not quite fast enough to walk on at Brown. The coach did give her the numbers she had to achieve that summer. In other words - they take walk ons, but there is a standard. Princeton for example, publishes WO standards. So “Do you have walk-ons?” can result in a different answer from “Can I walk on?.” GTech for example, requires Summer Nats times for WO. This is faster than some recruits.
FWIW, our friend at Brown is not swimming but is extremely happy.
@TonyGrace Thanks for the pointer, she’s well aware because the JHU and Chicago coaches, and more recently the McGill coach have given her very clear sheets, with 3 columns of times needed for recruits, potential recruit, and walk-on if there is space. Indeed D24 is very conscious her journey may follow that path.
Can you post images of those? It would be helpful for other recruits to understand what time requirements they are dealing with.
it would be so helpful for original poster to let us know times, but puzzling why she won’t say times to help us understand this entire thread.
50 S Free 27.67 100 S Free 58.68 100 L Free 1:00.35 200 L Free 2:13.69 1500 S Free 18:28.41 100 L Back 1:11.48 50 S Fly 29.45. found times. the best I can tell, 200 free lcm to yards is about a 1:57 scy. 100 back is 1.01 scy? these times are just not on par with schools looking at.
OP explained a few posts ago why they didn’t want to repost times. Maybe ask them in a PM.
the whole original post was about times and recruiting. I didn’t see anything concrete about reposting times. they should want that if they want help with understanding recruiting with these schools. lol, it’s the only reason for the original post. you have to know times and academics.