Hello!
I’ve read a lot about how applying to all the ivies is a mistake and that each of them looks for a different profile in the student. I have a question, what does each ivy look for in a student? I’m an international student and I’ve been trying to do some research on the ivies. I’ve been super interested in applying to all, but now that I’ve read that some of them want a specific profile and that’s not really all about numbers, I want to know what it takes to get into each asides from good grades.
I like Penn a lot, but when I asked myself the question of why I liked it, I stood blank and didn’t know how to answer asides from “It has the best business program”
However, when I asked myself why I liked Brown, it’s cause it gives me the liberty to choose all of my classes and core classes are not needed.
Which ivies include core classes in their study plan and which don’t?
I’m interested on studying business, more likely to choose something like business administration, international business or marketing, maybe entrepreneurship!
Thank you!
The ivy league is a crap shoot. I didn’t know why I wanted Penn other than it’s program I wanted (NELC), I sort of bs’d my essay and got in. I made Brown my dream school and had similar reasons and more then got rejected. Penn was a dark horse and now I’ll be attending it next year. You’ll never know 100% what they’re looking for, but generally speaking all of them want ambitious and unique people who know what they want and go great lengths to get it. Make sure what you’re doing in your high school career is more than trying to get into an ivy league.
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I've read a lot about how applying to all the ivies is a mistake and that each of them looks for a different profile in
the student. I have a question, what does each ivy look for in a student?
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I don’t think the point regarding not applying to all 8 Ivys has to do with what THEY look for … it is what YOU are looking for. Cornell is a more highly technical, mid-sized (14000 UG) university in upstate NY, somewhat in the middle of nowhere. Columbia is about half the number of undergrads in the middle of the biggest city in the US. Dartmouth is almost a liberal arts college (2500 students) in a small Connecticut town – Cornell has more undergrads than the town Dartmouth is in has people. Each school has a different type of student with different interests. Why would anyone want to apply to all three of them unless their only concern was to attend an Ivy?
“Why would anyone want to apply to all three of them unless their only concern was to attend an Ivy?”
Aside from the various other legitimate reasons, one reason was expressed on another recent thread. It went something like:
Admissions rates at all these schools are sufficiently low these days, and sufficiently unpredictable due to holistic admissions processes, and apparent undisclosed different standards applied to different groups of applicants, that one’s admissions chances for any school can’t be completely accurately assessed with complete confidence. Therefore there is a group of applicants- particularly those who need to compare financial aid offers- who are taking the approach of applying first, to the pool of “excellent” schools that meet full financial need, and only bothering to cull the list [other than limiting it somewhat by geographic area and type of school (university vs LAC)] if/after they are accepted. Some of the “I got into all eight Ivy league schools” types fall into this category. But even the ones I saw of these types did not only apply to ivy league schools. They applied to other good schools too.
Their first priority is to go to an excellent school of high repute that they can afford. Should they get into several of them, with sufficient funding, at that point they may have the luxury of deciding whether they prefer the small one or the big one. But that’s a second order consideration to them. That’s what was said.
International applicants would certainly be among the groups whose chances would be difficult to predict with any confidence.