<p>“softer targets would be like UMich, or other schools with good UG business programs (don’t go by rankings though, which are worthless, prestige is what matters here)”</p>
<p>does this only apply to their business program? or does recruiting apply to the whole school?</p>
<p>Here are the number of people from each school that will be in my BB’s investment banking (not S&T) summer analyst class. I picked out the schools I thought you guys would be interested in:</p>
<p>Ivy League
University of Pennsylvania: 12
Harvard: 8
Princeton: 6
Yale: 4
Cornell: 7
Columbia: 4
Dartmouth: 2
Brown: 0</p>
<p>Other Top Schools
University of Chicago: 7
University of Virginia: 5
Michigan: 4
MIT: 4
Georgetown: 3
Berkeley: 3
Stanford: 2
Duke: 2
Northwestern: 2
USC: 2
Notre Dame: 2
Tufts: 0
UCLA: 0</p>
<p>Liberal Arts Colleges
Williams: 5
Wellesley: 3
Smith: 2</p>
<p>Take it for what it’s worth.</p>
<p>and this is a good show of why the usnews rankings are a terrible representation of school prestige, at least in finance. </p>
<p>show me an equivalent list for all the bb’s and i bet uva, michigan, georgetown, berkeley, usc would probably beat higher rated schools like wustl, hopkins, brown, rice, emory, vandy every single time</p>
<p>Updated list - included a few more schools…</p>
<p>Ivy League
University of Pennsylvania: 12
Harvard: 8
Cornell: 7
Princeton: 6
Yale: 4
Columbia: 4
Dartmouth: 2
Brown: 0</p>
<p>Other Top Schools
NYU: 8
University of Chicago: 7
University of Virginia: 5
Michigan: 4
MIT: 4
Georgetown: 3
Berkeley: 3
UT - Austin: 3
Stanford: 2
Duke: 2
Rice: 2
Northwestern: 2
USC: 2
Notre Dame: 2
Washington University in St. Louis: 1
Tufts: 0
UCLA: 0</p>
<p>Liberal Arts Colleges
Williams: 5
Wellesley: 3
Smith: 2</p>
<p>lol, was wondering why stern wasnt on there</p>
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<p>While I don’t feel that USNWR rankings should be clung to and monitored like life and death, they aren’t trying to measure ‘prestige’. At the very least, the class profiles of Brown, Rice, JHU, WUSTL are stronger than Cal/Berkeley, UMichigan, UVA, Georgetown, USC, which is one of the things they are trying to incorporate into the rankings. </p>
<p>In my IB analyst class and subsequent Wall St positions, I have met more from Brown than any of those other schools; in fact, I haven’t met one person from USC and I’m not sure why you include it in your example because otherwise I would agree more from Cal/Berkeley, UVA, UMichigan, Georgetown go to Wall St than Rice, JHU, WUSTL, Vanderbilt, not that the former are necessarily better schools.</p>
<p>yeah, brown and usc probably shouldn’t have been on there. i actually have met very few brown people, but thats probably more a matter of brown not really attracting the type of student who wants to go to wall street</p>
<p>my main point was meant to have been that usnews underrates some schools, mainly top publics (uva, umich, berkeley, etc) while greatly overrating others (wustl especially). the fact that the student bodies at the others is stronger was kind of my point - despite having stronger student bodies coming in, they actually have worse placement.</p>
<p>edit: the is just an observation from the list posted above, my last summer’s analyst class, and people i’ve interviewed with. i dont actually go to any of the schools in question (im at princeton) so i dont really know what the exact recruiting situation is like at any of them</p>
<p>Also keep in mind that USNWR is a general ranking system (even within their finance ranking or w/e), it’s not a ranking of banking or S&T feeder schools, although I would love to see such a list…</p>
<p>From what I understand, each BB is a little different (and varies year to year) in terms of # of analysts from each school… but I agree with the general list noted in the past few posts</p>
<p>sophomore12 first sentence cannot be stressed enough. US News isn’t looking at Wall St. WashU, from what I’ve heard anyway, sends a ton of kids to med school. It’s a good school (though maybe a LITTLE overrated), it just isn’t AS Wall St. focused.</p>
<p>Regarding Brown, it’s very different for the different banks. Goldman Sachs is the number one employer of Brown graduates, across any field. On the other hand, some of the BB’s just don’t recruit here. We are also I believe the smallest, maybe second smallest, of the Ivy’s, so percentage wise, I wouldn’t be surprised if we do better than people realize.</p>
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<p>Brown is actually the fourth largest of the eight Ivys with Dartmouth, Princeton, Yale Columbia all smaller.</p>
<p>^^^ Yeah, I looked it up later, so that point is kind of irrelevant…Columbia is bigger though</p>
<p>Even in this market, there are a bunch of seniors going into IB/S&T from Pomona.</p>
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<p>According to collegeboard: Columbia has 1,346 in the Freshman class and Brown has 1,548.</p>
<p>What about Vanderbilt?</p>
<p>so i’d be fuc_ked coming from tufts?</p>
<p>Which would you pick? Which would be a better choice for banking?</p>
<p>McCombs. Business Honors. No debt. Already Attending. Have many friends. 3.86 GPA.</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>NYU. Stern. 150K debt for 3 years. Have to transfer. Leave friends. No real campus. Great opportunities for finance, especially banking.</p>
<p>And by banking, I mean investment banking… haha.</p>
<p>CAST YOUR VOTE! My future depends on it!</p>
<p>I’d stay at Texas. You’re doing well and you seem to like the school and the people there. In my opinion, Stern’s not worth the 150k in debt.</p>
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<p>Which BB is this? </p>
<p>Do banks usually release this kind of information?</p>
<p>i repeat</p>
<p>would I be screwed coming from tufts?</p>
<p>Screwed for bulge bracket, probably. But there are plenty of boutiques you could have a shot at, if you have a solid GPA and resume.</p>