Texas A&M vs. Texas Tech.

<p>In agricultural sciences, Cornell is the best school bar none.</p>

<p>I've also heard the University of California at Davis has a good agricultural program.</p>

<p>A&M is the school to go to in Texas for agricultural studies. I seriously don't think there is a single academic category which Texas Tech could beat A&M at. It's really a choice of atmosphere, which are remarkably similar.</p>

<p>I'm not terribly well informed about agricultural studies though.</p>

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A large proportion of the population at either school is very rural, many of whom are in that 25% of the population who still approve of the manner in which Governor Bush (of New Haven, CT)is running the United States.

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<p>I would appreciate it if you would leave politics out of a college discussion board. If I wanted to discuss President Bush I would not have come to this forum. Besides most of those presidential polls only ask 1,000 people for their opinions so it's pretty stupid to quote those to prove that the 250 million other Americans feel the same way.</p>

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That being said--there is VERY little real difference between the cultures of Tech and A&M.

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<p>Obviously you have never been to either school. I have been to both schools. There is a large cultural difference between the two schools. I LEFT Tech because I didn't like the culture there and I went to A&M and I loved it.</p>

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If it comes down to Tech Honors vs regular A&M, the academics are going to be better at Tech.

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<p>Oh really, then how come A&M is ranked way higher than Tech? Why does A&M have a well-connected alumni network then? Hmm?</p>

<p>Frankly, I think it's a little unwise to go into Tech Honors if you can get into A&M or UT because the alumni networks of both A&M and UT easily outweigh the benefits of being in the honors program at Tech. Hell, if you can go into the honors program up there I'm sure you can do it at A&M with no problems.</p>

<p>The fact that you are having to compare only the Honors program of Tech to the entire school of A&M proves my point regarding why it would be better just to go to A&M if you have a choice between the two. There are plenty of majors at A&M that do not have very many students in them anyway so it's not like you will be in class with 300+ people in every class of every major.</p>

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There's a little more culturally in BCS but both schools' social functions revolve around fraternities and drinking.

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<p>Whoa, you really have no clue what you are talking about.</p>

<p>A&M is not known for it's fraternities. Only a very small portion of the male student body at A&M is involved with the frats and I don't really even remember knowing any frat boys at A&M. On the other hand, Tech is a huge Greek school, and I guess it has to be because there's nothing else up there to do. There's also a major difference between the typical Tech student and the typical A&M student as far as academic profiles are concerned. If you are a stellar student with a high maturity level, there are more kids like you at A&M.</p>

<p>A&M is also nationally known whereas Tech really is not and A&M attracts a larger percentage of out-of-state students. So I find it hilarious that you would try to say that the culture of the two schools is the same. Are you simply trying to inject your political beliefs into a subject where they don't really fit?</p>

<p>Because you don't know a thing about A&M I would appreciate it if you would quit talking like you do.</p>

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She also might want to look at Texas A&M at Galveston, which is officially a branch of A&M-College Station, not an independed university, but has easier admissions policies and a more laid back and liberal atmosphere.

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<p>A&M at Galveston would be of interest to marine majors only. You either go there for your first two years before transferring to College Station or you go there for your major in the marine field.</p>

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Actually, I have nothing to do with tech, and have never heard of the school until someone brought up this post.

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<p>Then you really must not have a life if you come on a college discussion board and get into discussions about schools which do not concern you.</p>

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If you read your post, I can hardly imagine anyone thats going to think of tech as being a good school.

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<p>Why does any of this matter to you? You probably aren't even from Texas.</p>

<p>Get a life. Put on something besides a wifebeater covered in barbeque sauce, turn off the computer, flip the deadbolt off of your door, and walk outside.
Get some air.</p>

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What can you expect from a school other than culture, prestige, intellectual student body, decent alumni, and exciting campus?

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<p>Your problem is that you failed to realize several times that I was comparing Tech to A&M. Of course, seeing that you must not have a girlfriend or hobbies, that doesn't surprise me.</p>

<p>A&M beats Tech in all of those areas. However, Tech beats most of the other universities in Texas in those qualities.</p>

<p>A&M > Tech > Smaller, regional universities</p>

<p>If you can't understand that simple concept, there is no hope for you of ever grasping this thread. But you shouldn't be on this thread anyway because it doesn't concern you but I guess you don't have any better use for your time.</p>

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Are you saying that you have failed to mention hardcore parties and pretty girls?

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<p>Yes, that's actually something Tech is known for.</p>

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<p>I didn't mention the good aspects of Tech because they were irrelevant, dumbass. All the good qualities of Tech you can also find at A&M and because I was comparing the two, there were no real standout qualities of Tech compared to A&M. My entire point is that A&M is a better choice than Tech so why would I need to point out the good qualities of Tech?</p>

<p>You weren't even able to grasp the idea that I was comparing Tech to A&M, not writing out the pros and cons of just Tech.</p>

<p>But why am I even discussing this with some loser like you? Do you even have a college degree?</p>

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In agricultural sciences, Cornell is the best school bar none.</p>

<p>I've also heard the University of California at Davis has a good agricultural program.

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<p>Considering that most of the Ag majors I have met have no intention of ever leaving Texas, who cares?</p>

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A&M is the school to go to in Texas for agricultural studies. I seriously don't think there is a single academic category which Texas Tech could beat A&M at. It's really a choice of atmosphere, which are remarkably similar.

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<p>The atmospheres are not similar, otherwise I would not have transferred from Tech to A&M.</p>

<p>Unless you have been to both schools like I have you just need to quit talking because you don't have a clue.</p>

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Then you really must not have a life if you come on a college discussion board and get into discussions about schools which do not concern you.

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<p>What’s the correlation between not having a life and replying to posts? </p>

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Why does any of this matter to you? You probably aren't even from Texas.</p>

<p>Get a life. Put on something besides a wifebeater covered in barbeque sauce, turn off the computer, flip the deadbolt off of your door, and walk outside.
Get some air.</p>

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<p>You haven't even answered my question. All you have showed me is that you’re incapable of having civilized conversation.</p>

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Your problem is that you failed to realize several times that I was comparing Tech to A&M. Of course, seeing that you must not have a girlfriend or hobbies, that doesn't surprise me.</p>

<p>A&M beats Tech in all of those areas. However, Tech beats most of the other universities in Texas in those qualities.</p>

<p>A&M > Tech > Smaller, regional universities</p>

<p>If you can't understand that simple concept, there is no hope for you of ever grasping this thread. But you shouldn't be on this thread anyway because it doesn't concern you but I guess you don't have any better use for your time.

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<p>First of all, if you were to compare schools, you need to learn some manners. The way you wrote about tech would have probably been not so pleasant for a tech student or alumni to read. Also, the way you wrote it seemed more like school bashing than comparative analysis. You INSISTED that tech has no culture, the campus was boring, etc. Now, if a MIT student comes by and insists that A&M have no culture, mediocre students, and terrible campus, does this seem like a comparative analysis to you?</p>

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I didn't mention the good aspects of Tech because they were irrelevant, dumbass. All the good qualities of Tech you can also find at A&M and because I was comparing the two, there were no real standout qualities of Tech compared to A&M. My entire point is that A&M is a better choice than Tech so why would I need to point out the good qualities of Tech?

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<p>How is mentioning good aspects of a school irrelevant? From reading these posts, Tech and A&M obviously seem like a different school. Tech has smaller classes, is known to be less conservative, and gives more personal attention. I don’t think these qualities are something you can find at A&M. If someone were to go to grad school or any other kind of professional schools, the qualities of Tech seem more fitting than A&M to me. The point is, A&M being a better choice than tech is your biased opinion, and not everyone will necessarily agree with you.</p>

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You weren't even able to grasp the idea that I was comparing Tech to A&M, not writing out the pros and cons of just Tech.

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<p>It’s obvious to me that you don’t realize a good comparison consists of both pros and cons. To me, your post seemed more like a biased opinion of a pompous A&M fanboy than an appropriate comparison of the two schools. But why should I even bother explaining to a fool like you when you can’t even comprehend such simple concepts?</p>

<p>Sang54, considering the fact that you are obviously a loser with no social life whatsoever and thus you actually have time to spend posting on a message board regarding a thread you know nothing about, I see no point of even reading what you wrote above, much less responding to it point by point.</p>

<p>As such, you just wasted time writing it, although it seems like you have all the time in the world.</p>

<p>I find it really amusing that you can't even respond to things I have said. I guess with a low level of intelligence, that is a hard thing to do.</p>

<p>I have a low level of intelligence?</p>

<p>Hahahahaha</p>

<p>Hahaha</p>

<p>Hahahahaha</p>

<p>Sure, sure. Any idiot can see my advanced writing style on here and can tell that I am not an idiot. On the other hand, they can tell that you're just a poor excuse for a troll.</p>

<p>Besides, academically and career-wise, I have probably accomplished more by my mere existence than you have done with your life.</p>

<p>Why should I respond to the things you have said? We are discussing Texas Tech. You know absolutely nothing about Texas Tech. So why should I respond to you? You offer nothing to the discussion. It's obvious that I have accomplished more in life than you because I don't have time to jump into discussions and make long posts about a topic I know nothing about. For example, you don't see me on here arguing with somebody about the University of Colorado because I know nothing about that school and I don't have time.</p>

<p>Your continuing responses to me on this topic proves my point further.</p>

<p>"1) is there a place at College Station for liberal Democratic nonconformists? "</p>

<p>LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL.
My friend doesn't go to Texas A&M, but he goes to Texas State and knows a lot about the campus. If he really wants to be with people he can identify with, Texas A&M isn't really the place for a ton of reasons. </p>

<p>1) Most of the students there are staunch Republicans. Last time I checked, they also love George W. Bush, which is (at least in my opinion) completely different from liking Ronald Reagan.
2) A solid majority of the student population is white (as in probably less than 10 percent anything else.)<br>
3) Most are from Texas.
4) If by any chance he happens to be gay, tell him to stay clear. Texas A&M is SUPER homophobic (maybe not like Baylor, but still pretty bad.) The Princeton Review also agrees</p>

<p>There are of course, more reasons, but those are sufficient. </p>

<p>UT Austin would probably be a better choice if he wants to stay in Texas. However, if he's so keen on agricultural sciences that he doesn't care about the general environment, then Texas A&M is a great fit. It's pretty much the best when it comes to that field. </p>

<p>Hope that helps. :D</p>

<p>Ooh, advanced writing style, something to boast about, huh? Big deal. I care less about you having superior writing style than me when English isn't even my first language.</p>

<p>By the way, you criticize me for replying on something that I am not familiar of, and yet, you make hypocritical statements on other discussions that you have less knowledge of (i.e. actuarial science). I guess you really do have a low intelligence, or habit of changing opinions very quickly. ;)</p>

<p>You also seem to have a lot of time too ;) Here you are criticizing me for having nothing to do with my life, and yet I find you replying to every single little details. Hahahaha</p>

<p>I really see no point continuing such low level discussion with you. Why should I bother talking to someone who can’t even tell the difference between actuarial and natural sciences? LOL. You can go ahead and start your social masturbation again, and I will leave you in peace. :)</p>

<p>BTW, I have a feeling that you will have the urge to reply to this post again. Try not to. It really goes against what you said so far. ;)</p>

<p>University of Texas!!!
I HATE AGGIES, but i guess i'll suck it up. Texas A&M over Tech hands down. My friends go to Tech and all there is to do is drink and go to clubs. Lubbock is boring and you have to drive 20 minutes to some town to do anything really.
If you don't drink well then... good luck! Actually, that is a lie. One of my friends doesn't drink and goes to Tech , but he doesn't really like it that much.
If people at Tech had an option to go to A&M they would do it in a heart beat. Make the right choice!!!! </p>

<p>Best advice. Go visit. Stay overnight. Go to College Station, drive to Austin to visit UT and then 10 hours to Lubbock. I went to visit TECH before i got accepted to UT and i really liked the campus.</p>

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1) Most of the students there are staunch Republicans. Last time I checked, they also love George W. Bush, which is (at least in my opinion) completely different from liking Ronald Reagan.

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<p>That's funny, I still have friends at A&M and they sure haven't been polled about this lately. Don't make statements like this if you can't back them up.</p>

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2) A solid majority of the student population is white (as in probably less than 10 percent anything else.)

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<p>Considering the fact that A&M is in a rural region of Texas, what did you expect? In fact, I don't really see this as a negative. I mean, nobody complaints about the lack of diversity at historically black universities, do they?</p>

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3) Most are from Texas.

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<p>UT-Austin attracts most of the OOS kids I believe and I'm actually happy for this. I'm not really snobby but I'd rather have shared references with fellow Texans.</p>

<p>sang, shut up already.</p>

<p>jjlove, I agree with you 100% totally. If you like the environment of UT, go there but NEVER, EVER pick Tech over A&M due to the environment at A&M.</p>

<p>Formidable, you have NO clue what you are talking about. UT is 2% out of state and 3% international (many of whom are Mexicans who have lived in Texas for much of their lives). That's a whopping 1000 out of FIFTY thousand.</p>

<p>There are lots of non-white people in rural areas of Texas. Have you ever been to East Texas? There are a lot of African-Americans there. Have you ever been south of San Antonio? There are a lot of Latinos there. You sound like you are basing your opinion of rural Texas on the area immediately surrounding College Station or else the Panhandle...an incredibly small proportion of the population of Texas.</p>

<p>Actually, there are 300 million other Americans, but who's counting. It's a national sample and it's a statistically accurate representation of public opinion. And I mentioned politics because in the OP's post it CLEARLY mentioned that the nephew or niece was a "liberal nonconformist Democrat." Such a person WOULD NOT fit in very well at TAMU. It's asking college advise, and the political aspect is very relevant.</p>

<p>I have been to both schools, not as a student but I have visited both campuses and know several current students and alumni of the schools. The culture of BCS is based on Aggie tradition and alcohol. The culture of Lubbock is based around alcohol. All that TTU is lacking is the Aggie tradition--something I feel they'd prefer not to have.</p>

<p>If it comes down to Tech Honors vs regular A&M, the academics are going to be better at Tech. </p>

<p>Why would it be better to attend Tech Honors than A&M? Well, for one reason, you'd actually meet your professors, you'd have small class sizes, and you'd get individual classes you simply couldn't get in the regular program at TAMU. Regardless of your major, for your core classes at TAMU you will be in a giant lecture hall with a foreign TA teaching you. Maybe in upper-division courses in some majors you could get individual attention, but in a popular division like agriculture you really couldn't.</p>

<p>I'm not saying TTU is more well-connected than TAMU. It isn't. But the undergrad experience is very important to one's future, and TTU Honors is better than TAMU Regular. TAMU Honors beats the crap out of TTU Honors. </p>

<p>I'm not claiming that A&M is completely centered around fraternities, but they are a major part of the social life at both schools (at least for well-connected people). Tech has less to do in the surrounding area, but unless you bail for Houston over the weekend BCS isn't going to offer a significant improvement.</p>

<p>A&M is not any more nationally known than Tech. I hate to tell you, but the only thing it's really known for is that their football team has more tradition. Yes TAMU is a better school but outside the vicinity of Texas they're basically equal. And you yourself claimed that aTm has a low proportion of out-of-state students. Simply put, a giant silver water tower in the middle of nowhere isn't desireable to many from outside our fair borders. They'd kind of prefer an ivory tower in the middle of one of America's cultural capitals. And as I stated above, politics were essential to the entire discussion. If you'd actually read the original post instead of looking for information to combat people with, you'd have a lot of insight to offer. You've attended both schools and obviously have something of interest to the conversation. However, you ruin it with your disparagement of others simply to promote your school. If you actually read my post you'd clearly see how I said that Tech wasn't a great school and that almost everyone I knew that went there left.</p>

<p>I know quite a lot about A&M and a lot of people who go there. They all say it's a great school. I agree--but it's not for everyone. The OP would almost certainly be a two percenter and that really isn't a great thing to be at TAMU.</p>

<p>Let's close with a little joke to lighten the mood. "How many Aggies does it take to change a light bulb? Four. One to screw it in. One to cheer him on. One to make it a tradition. And one to tell everyone how much greater that tradition is than everyone else's."</p>

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LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL.
My friend doesn't go to Texas A&M, but he goes to Texas State and knows a lot about the campus. If he really wants to be with people he can identify with, Texas A&M isn't really the place for a ton of reasons.

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<p>Hahaha, oh this is great. It’s bad enough when people use a friend as their sole source of information about a university, but yours doesn’t actually even attend the school in question. I mean honestly, how much can a Texas State student really know about the A&M campus? Don’t answer, that’s rhetorical. </p>

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1) Most of the students there are staunch Republicans. Last time I checked, they also love George W. Bush, which is (at least in my opinion) completely different from liking Ronald Reagan.

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<p>LOL, I’m glad that you and your Bobcat buddy have such a handle on the political pulse of the more than 45,000 students in Aggieland. </p>

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<p>Uh, I hate to break this to you chief, but outside the historically black colleges and universities and maybe a few regional schools along the southern border or in Florida, you’re going to be hard pressed to find a university anywhere in the county whose “solid majority of the student population” is NOT white. </p>

<p>Btw, your stats are way off. Here are the correct figures compared to UT, which a lot of people on these boards mistakenly seem to think is so much more incredibly diverse than A&M:</p>

<pre><code> A&M/ UT

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<p>Black 1,266 3.0%/ 1,841 3.9%
Hispanic 4,640 11.0%/ 7,073 15.1%
Asian 1,609 3.8%/ 6,869 14.6%
American Indian 216 0.5%/ 222 0.5%
International 3,383 8.0%/ 4,203 9.0%
Unknown/Other 177 0.4%/ 345 0.7% </p>

<p>Source:
OISP</a> - Reports
UT</a> Austin - Office of Information Management and Analysis </p>

<p>You’ll note from the stats above, that the only significant variation is in the population of Asians. The Hispanic gap, which is very close now, is set to become non-existent or even turn in A&M’s favor considering the fact that they just nominated the first Hispanic female to be the President of a major university in the history of the state. </p>

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<p>Um, duh. The same can be said for every single other school in Texas, including the privates. Ditto for schools in other states. </p>

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<p>No boss, the correct statement would be something along the lines of “A&M, like every other school in America, has its share of ignorant jackasses, but they are definitely not representative of the entire university”. </p>

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There are of course, more reasons, but those are sufficient.

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<p>Hahaha, why stop now? Keep ‘em coming. ;)</p>

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I have been to both schools, not as a student but I have visited both campuses and know several current students and alumni of the schools. The culture of BCS is based on Aggie tradition and alcohol. The culture of Lubbock is based around alcohol. All that TTU is lacking is the Aggie tradition--something I feel they'd prefer not to have.</p>

<p>If it comes down to Tech Honors vs regular A&M, the academics are going to be better at Tech. </p>

<p>Why would it be better to attend Tech Honors than A&M? Well, for one reason, you'd actually meet your professors, you'd have small class sizes, and you'd get individual classes you simply couldn't get in the regular program at TAMU. Regardless of your major, for your core classes at TAMU you will be in a giant lecture hall with a foreign TA teaching you. Maybe in upper-division courses in some majors you could get individual attention, but in a popular division like agriculture you really couldn't.</p>

<p>I'm not saying TTU is more well-connected than TAMU. It isn't. But the undergrad experience is very important to one's future, and TTU Honors is better than TAMU Regular. TAMU Honors beats the crap out of TTU Honors. </p>

<p>I'm not claiming that A&M is completely centered around fraternities, but they are a major part of the social life at both schools (at least for well-connected people). Tech has less to do in the surrounding area, but unless you bail for Houston over the weekend BCS isn't going to offer a significant improvement.</p>

<p>A&M is not any more nationally known than Tech. I hate to tell you, but the only thing it's really known for is that their football team has more tradition. Yes TAMU is a better school but outside the vicinity of Texas they're basically equal.

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<p>Theloneranger, due to the fact that you do not have any first-hand knowledge of either school (i.e. you are/were not a student at A&M or Tech), I’m not going to debate you about class sizes, individual attention, accessibility of professors, and things of that nature. Because, to be frank, it is clear you don’t know what you’re talking about. </p>

<p>However, regarding academic excellence and national reputation, I will disagree and point out there is quite a significant difference between the two. Question for you: would you consider universities like Maryland, Rutgers, and Purdue to be peers of Texas Tech? Remember, we’re not talking sports here. You know, there are actually reasons why Texas A&M is ranked among many of the top public universities across America, just as there are reasons why Texas Tech is considered a 3rd tier university. So, the fact is that while YOU may not see a difference in the two schools, believe me when I tell you that people around the country who are in the know, definitely do.</p>

<p>Saying that the student body at Tech is mediocre would be generous. I know plenty of people who go there and the majority (not all) are people who nearly flunked out of my high school and went there because they wanted to be wasted all the time and they couldn't get in anywhere else. Of course, there are exceptions like with everything and I know some cool people who go there, but generally the stereotypes are true.</p>

<p>Well, Green, I agree with you. The kids that went to Tech from my high school were going there because they were only above average students in high school and they couldn't get into UT or A&M. When I was there I had this realization that I didn't belong there. Tech has some good students, don't get me wrong, but I sure didn't meet very many of them while I was up there.</p>

<p>If you go there for engineering or some like major and you have a scholarship then it's worthwhile to go to Tech. What I didn't get were the country boys who were always in the Blue Light. How did they pick Tech over A&M? A&M would have been perfect for them.</p>

<p>The school itself is kind of small (25,000 students I think) and there's hardly anything going on in Lubbock, so I found the "college experience" there lacking.</p>

<p>Damn, kyler, you took the words right out of my mouth. A&M is ranked 62nd nationally, and Purdue is ranked around 64th. People out-of-state have heard of Texas A&M. A&M is also around 21th-23rd ranked public school. Texas Tech is virtually unknown outside of Texas, New Mexico, and Oklahoma. Frankly, it's never going to change because Tech is in a part of the state that isn't growing very fast, if at all.</p>

<p>Considering that A&M is only about $400 bucks more a semester, if you had a choice between the two, the choice should be obvious. The "environment" issue doesn't hold any weight because the only environment at Tech is the "let's drink all night" variety.</p>

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If it comes down to Tech Honors vs regular A&M, the academics are going to be better at Tech.

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<p>I was at Tech and A&M. You just said you were never a student at either school. So you don't have a clue about what you are talking about. If the academics at Tech Honors are so much better than what I have received at A&M, then how come I've never had to fear losing a job opportunity to a Tech Honors graduate?</p>

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All that TTU is lacking is the Aggie tradition--something I feel they'd prefer not to have.

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<p>A&M has something to be proud of whereas Tech does not.</p>

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Well, for one reason, you'd actually meet your professors, you'd have small class sizes, and you'd get individual classes you simply couldn't get in the regular program at TAMU.

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<p>That's funny, I went to A&M and yet I still knew all my professors. You don't have a clue. If you are an outstanding student you really don't need to meet your professors and you don't need small class sizes because you're going to learn the material on your own.</p>

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But the undergrad experience is very important to one's future, and TTU Honors is better than TAMU Regular.

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<p>No, what's important is GETTING A JOB. I've known kids from liberal arts colleges who had one-on-one professors and small class sizes and they had trouble finding jobs because they didn't have the career network of a larger school.</p>

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I'm not claiming that A&M is completely centered around fraternities, but they are a major part of the social life at both schools (at least for well-connected people).

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<p>ANYONE who has been to A&M will know that this statement of yours is absolutely, totally false. Quit talking about A&M when you know nothing about the school.</p>

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Tech has less to do in the surrounding area, but unless you bail for Houston over the weekend BCS isn't going to offer a significant improvement.

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<p>Oh really?</p>

<p>1) Chili Fest
2) Lakes and Rivers
3) Yell Practice
4) Hunting
5) Plenty of bars with no cover charges
6) Driving distance to other places in Texas</p>

<p>Lubbock has none of this at all.</p>

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A&M is not any more nationally known than Tech.

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<p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>

<p>You are an idiot.</p>

<p>You're trying to tell us that a air, land, sea and space grant university that is ranked in the top 100 schools, which also spends $400 million a year on research, is not better known than Texas Tech?</p>

<p>I'd appreciate it if you would quit talking about the two schools that I actually went to because you just make yourself look like a moron.</p>

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Formidable, you have NO clue what you are talking about. UT is 2% out of state and 3% international (many of whom are Mexicans who have lived in Texas for much of their lives). That's a whopping 1000 out of FIFTY thousand.

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<p>Sure are more than 1000 OOS students on this board asking about UT admission standards. The school attracts MORE OOS students than A&M, that is the truth.</p>

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There are lots of non-white people in rural areas of Texas. Have you ever been to East Texas?

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<p>Obviously I've been to East Texas if I went to A&M...</p>

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There are a lot of African-Americans there.

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<p>Are White people from South Africa considered to be African-Americans? Why not? They are from Africa.</p>

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Have you ever been south of San Antonio? There are a lot of Latinos there. You sound like you are basing your opinion of rural Texas on the area immediately surrounding College Station or else the Panhandle...an incredibly small proportion of the population of Texas.

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<p>I used to work on a carpentry crew, only White on the entire crew.</p>

<p>Okay, so what does this have to do with the demographics at the school? Seriously. I thought we were talking about A&M and UT, not East or South Texas.</p>

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And I mentioned politics because in the OP's post it CLEARLY mentioned that the nephew or niece was a "liberal nonconformist Democrat." Such a person WOULD NOT fit in very well at TAMU.

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<p>Why don't you tell that to the Democrat student organization at A&M? I'm sure that they'd love to hear you say that they don't belong there at all. Most of them are diehard Aggies.</p>

<p>My point stands, keep your personal political views out of this thread.</p>

<p>Texas has two flagship universities - UT - Austin which has by far the largest academic resources and Texas A&M. Except for UT Austin, Texas Tech as the dominant state university in West Texas is competitive with every Texas state university including Texas A&M. Let's talk facts. Texas Tech is the only state university that has a graduate school, law school, and medical school on the same campus. Reflecting its growing academic prowess, Texas Tech was one of only seven colleges/universities in the country awarded a Phi Beta Kappa chapter last year (with UT-Austin and A&M as the only other Texas state universities with chapters).</p>

<p>Tech's Honors College has early entrance programs to both the medical and law schools at Tech. Can a similar statement be made for TAMU's Honors programs? The dean of Tech's Honors College, Dr. Gary Bell, is consulted by universities around the country to advise on their honors programs. For example, a couple years ago Dr. Bell critiqued University of North Texas' honors program. Tech's Honors College is one of only four or five honors colleges in the country with faculty having appointments only in the honors college and a couple majors only for honors students.</p>

<p>Green713 - "Saying that the student body at Tech is mediocre would be generous". I'm throwing out the challenge. Back up your bluster about Tech with facts.</p>

<p>Just to put things in perspective and to try to avoid more posting wars, UT-Austin is better overall academically than Texas A&M and A&M is better overall academically than Tech. With that said, Tech has lots of positive things going for it and it takes a visit to Lubbock and College Station for an individual student to decide what is the best "fit" for them. My son was turned off by the Aggie culture when he visited as a high school senior and loves Tech while Formidable went to Tech and then transferred to A&M and loves it. Each to his own. To interested students, find what's right for you by visiting both and then decide.</p>