The Abuse by the University of Michigan

<p>Mojojojo, I believe this year is unlike other years. Most of those who were deferred this year would probably have been admitted straight off in previous years. I have spoken to a couple of adcoms and they tell me that this year is shaping up to be the most selective year ever. I had explained this to many of you months ago. I recall explicitly stating that this year was going to be unlike other years. And next year is probably going to be even tougher. </p>

<p>This year, Michigan is expecting over 25,000 applicants for only the second time in its history and it is expected to accept fewer than 12,000 of those for the first time in many years. We are looking at a 45% acceptance rate compared to 62% in 2004 and 57% in 2005...and the quality of the applicants has improved. Do you realize what a huge spike in selectivity this is? 57% to 45%. </p>

<p>All I am saying is that we understand your frustration and we know how tough this year is going to be.</p>

<p>well i didnt know that they were having some form of application inflation, but i still didnt see a reason to bash the deferred applicants!</p>

<p>I found that, during my days as a deferred applicant, i was generally happier when not on CC anyway. It's usually a nicer place after you've blown off your steam elsewhere and are satisfied with your college situation.</p>

<p>I apologize if you felt bashed for being deferred. I have been responding to this thread because I feel it's important to clarify some false impressions and errors in fact. I have tried to express, multiple times, that frustration like yours is understandable. I teased kb because of past threads he'd participated in. If that felt like a bash to you as well, I am sorry.</p>

<p>Alexandre is right in that this is an unusual year for freshmen. It's not clear to me that it's an unusual year for transfers, however. Again, I know trends and whatnot matter little to a student who has only one year to apply and be admitted, but some posters have implied they have inside knowledge of longer-term practices and priorities at the University, and I think they are incorrect. </p>

<p>Everyone needs some space to vent. However, I also see this as a place where current and prospective applicants come to get information. Therefore, when venting crosses over into misrepresenting the University's admissions processes, it's correct (IMHO) for people to address those items.</p>

<p>(and for what it is worth, while we're correcting errors of fact I do not work for the admissions office)</p>

<p>any other applicants feel abused by the system? lol decisions are coming up very soon!!</p>

<p>When I was applying to UM, everyone I know was telling me to apply as early as possible. There's a way to beat the admissions process. That helped immensly.</p>

<p>I still haven't heard back from UVA yet. While I'm most likely not going there, there are still colleges that haven't released decisions.</p>

<p>"When I was applying to UM, everyone I know was telling me to apply as early as possible. There's a way to beat the admissions process. That helped immensly."</p>

<p>I listened to that and applied in October. It did nothing for me. In fact, I never heard back until mid March(defferral).</p>

<p>I applied in October as well, received a letter requesting my semester grades in November and haven't heard back since even though they've had my semester grades for three months.</p>

<p>I was a big fan of rolling admissions this year. I applied about a week before November 1 and was accepted the first week of January.</p>

<p>Like many other people in here, I've wanted to attend Michigan since I was in 2nd grade, watching Michigan football games, etc. It was a huge relief to hear back from Michigan in January. I no longer had to worry about getting into schools because if I didn't get into Cornell, Northwestern, Penn, Columbia, etc. I would still be welcome at Michigan. Well, it ended up where I got into Cornell and Northwestern (somewhat unexpectedly), and now I have a huge decision to make. Attend Michigan with my friends and graduate with little to no debt? Or take out the loans to attend a private school in another state, likely to never live in Michigan again?</p>

<p>Doesn't really help that I'll be the first person on either side of my parents' families to go away to attend a real university.</p>

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"When I was applying to UM, everyone I know was telling me to apply as early as possible. There's a way to beat the admissions process. That helped immensly."</p>

<p>I listened to that and applied in October. It did nothing for me. In fact, I never heard back until mid March(defferral).

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<p>Dude, you DID hear back. Michigan deferred you; that is a response. Its not like you applied in Oct. and you didn't get anything. A deferral is a decision, and you knew from the get go that you could be accepted, rejected or deferred.</p>

<p>What you all have to understand as well is that UM CANNOT overenroll again. Things are tight as it is, and w/ Mojo shutting down, there is NO space for overenrollment. They have to make sure they enroll the right amount of people, which means they have to defer until they know how many acceptees are going and how many aren't. There's no sinister plot; would you like to go to a school where they can't house you and where there aren't enough resources for the number of students? I know I don't. Admissions is doing what is best for the University and the students it already serves. Just like every other school.</p>

<p>No I don't care what the decision was. My problem was that it took them 5 months to send me a decision. I understand their problem. I got patience and I waited. No big deal. The only thing that will **** me off is if I get in and get no financial aid. But other than that, I wait patiently and go on with my life. I don't linger about whether I will get in. Live my life and when it comes it comes.</p>

<p>You think you are the only kid at UM who didn't get the fin aid package that he/she wanted. Get for real dude...</p>

<p>You need to slow your roll. Your "problems" aren't even problems. You ought to feel lucky you got in to UM in the 1st place. There are PLENTY of people who would love to be in your place right now. I know kids that would have taken 160K out in non-federal loans had they gotten in. And you are ****<em>ing because you didn't get your accept letter on the date that you would have preferred. *rolls eyes</em>. Get over it kiddo.</p>

<p>kb54010 i kinda agree with you. i'd love to be in that guy's place at the moment.</p>

<p>You obviously didn't read what I posted. I got deferred man. I didn't get in. It took them 5 months to defer me. So I don't know *** you're talking out. So read first before you open your big ass mouth.</p>

<p>I think everyone here needs to relax and go have fun. Screw the admissions for now and do what you do. Don't lose sleep over it. You guys got no control over what they do.</p>

<p>I don't get why it takes 5 months to get a deferral. What, they need more time to review your app? 5 months isn't enough? I've been accepted at some of my schools in 5 days!</p>

<p>To recap:</p>

<p>It doesn't take five months to review an app. Three people read it and come to consensus, and that process doesn't take that long (not at little as five days, but generally not more than a few weeks). They talk about the evaluation process on the webpage. </p>

<p>The "How many do we admit, and which ones" decisions are handled separately, and have nothing to do with the readers who do evaluations. Those decisions are revisited every few weeks from October through now.</p>

<p>My apologies, I misread your previous statement; I thought you were accepted and angry that you didn't get any financial aid. Nevertheless I still think your *****ing is a bit childish.</p>

<p>oh hellz nawz!! its april and i havent received my decision!! lol just kidding!!</p>

<p>mojojojo..I still haven't received my decision...starting to not care anymore. I was deferred back in Jan...cmon umich.</p>

<p>yea, im starting not to care either..haha</p>